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Tour de Primes 2019
Welcome to the 11th annual Tour de Primes. 2 is the first prime number...and the only even one. This makes it unique among prime numbers. Therefore, February is declared Prime month...being the 2nd month of the year. :) And there's no better way to pay homage to a prime number than to go out and find one. :) More precisely, a Top 5000 prime.
For the month of February, an informal competition is offered. There are no challenge points to be gained... just a simple rare jersey at the end of the month to add to your badge list. No pressure or stress other than what you put on yourself. :)
For 2019, we're bringing back the badges introduced in 2018:
Red Jersey -- discoverer of largest prime
Yellow Jersey -- prime count leader (tiebreaker will be prime score)
Green Jersey -- points (prime score) leader
Polk-a-dot Jersey -- on the 19th of February we'll have a "Mountain Stage" and award the Polk-a-dot Jersey to the one who finds the most primes on that day (tiebreaker will be prime score for that day).
Prime badge -- awarded to everyone who finds an eligible prime during the month of February. This is a counter badge, so if you find more than one prime it will show how many you've found, up to 99.
Mega prime badge -- awarded to everyone who finds a mega prime during February. This is a counter badge.
Mountain Stage prime badge -- awarded to everyone who finds an eligible prime during the Mountain Stage. This is a counter badge.
Mountain Stage mega prime badge -- awarded to everyone who finds a mega prime during the Mountain Stage. This is a counter badge.
Results will be available at http://www.primegrid.com/challenge/tdp_2019.php.
As with the last few years, for all primes (BOINC and PRPNet) we're using the new reporting system whereby the prime's date of discovery determines whether it's eligible for the Tour de Primes. Prior to 2014, the date of verification for BOINC primes was used while the discovery date was used for PRPNet primes. The current system is more intuitive and fairer.
Note that SGS-LLR and GFN-15 are too small to be reported to the Top 5000 primes list and are therefore not eligible for the 2019 Tour de Primes.
Currently, the fastest opportunities to find Top 5000 primes is with the PPSE (LLR), and GFN-16 (65536) projects. Of course, should someone find a prime in the mega-prime searches, this would certainly give them a good shot at the green jersey. Not a guarantee, however, as in 2018 there were several mega primes found in the Tour de Primes. Overall, in 2018 we averaged close to two mega primes per week for the entire year, so you might need more than "merely" a mega prime to take home green. In 2018 there were 16 mega primes found during Tour de Primes.
All ports in PRPNet are available for the competition.
To participate in BOINC PPSE (LLR), GFN-16, or any other eligible LLR or Genefer project, all you have to do is select it in your PrimeGrid preferences. AP27 sequences are not reportable at T5K, so are not eligible for Tour de Primes.
Good Luck, have fun, and enjoy! :D
Previous Winners
- Robish
- [AF>Amis des Lapins] dthonon
- [AF>Amis des Lapins] dthonon
- tng*
- wdethomas
- tng*
- wdethomas
- tng*
- boss
- Scott Brown
- boss
- Orange_1050
- Scott Brown
- Randall J. Scalise
- vmc
- [DPC]x-RaY99_the_one_man_team
- [DPC]x-RaY99_the_one_man_team
- Lonnie Christensen
- [DPC]x-RaY99_the_one_man_team
- [DPC]x-RaY99_the_one_man_team
- PBT_marian_boss
- Scott Brown
- Usucapio Libertatis
- Scott Brown
- shanky123
- [BOINCstats] LostBoy
- Snf*
- lennart
- lennart
- [SG]marodeur6
- lennart
- s-yama
- lennart
Full rankings can be seen here: 2009 | 2010 | 2011 | 2012 | 2013 | 2014 | 2015 | 2016 | 2017 | 2018
Totals by Year
2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018
Total Primes found 212 309 766 646 238 254 254 346 246 256
Total Score 457.30 2663.27 21803.72 20727.04 15614.83 20982.77 30268.46 43656.50 40201.94 55393.50
Tips and Strategies:
Tip #1: He (or she) who finds the prime FIRST is the discover of the prime. It's a competition between you and your wingman. While having a fast computer helps, your computer is only useful when it's running a task. If you have a cache of tasks sitting on your computer waiting to run, chances are your wingman will return the task before you've even started it. Setting both BOINC cache settings to "0 days" is strongly recommended. People with slow computers find primes all the time because their wingman downloaded the task yesterday but won't start running it until tomorrow. Set your cache to 0 days!
If you're going to ignore tip #1, don't even bother reading the rest. Seriously.
Tips for LLR:
- Your mileage may vary. What works for me may not work for you. Before TdP starts, take some time and experiment and see what works best on your computer.
- If you have an Intel CPU with hyperthreading, either turn off the hyperthreading in the BIOS, or set BOINC to use 50% of the processors. (But see below for exceptions.)
- If you're using a GPU for other tasks, it may be beneficial to leave hyperthreading on in the BIOS and instead tell BOINC to use 50% of the CPU's. This will allow one of the hyperthreads to service the GPU.
- Use LLR's multithreaded mode. It requires a little bit of setup, but it's worth the effort. Follow these steps:
Tips for GFN:
- Only run GFN on a GPU. Use your CPU for LLR tasks where it will be much more efficient.
- Unless you have a really slow GPU and a really fast CPU, leave a CPU core free to service the GPU. You'll want the more powerful GPU running at full speed, even if it slows down the CPU somewhat. A hyperthread should be sufficient if your CPU supports hyperthreading. For example, on a 4 core CPU (without hyperthreading), you could set BOINC to "use 75% of the CPUs" to reserve one core for the GPU.
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The link for the results of 2018 goes to the site of 2017.
Thanks!
It's fixed.
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read config file and got: "app_config.xml refers to an unknown application 'llrPPSE'...?
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read config file and got: "app_config.xml refers to an unknown application 'llrPPSE'...?
This is normal if you have referenced llrPPSE in the config file, but not actually run a PPSE task yet.
It is safe to ignore until you start running PPSE.
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Badge Score: 2*1 + 3*1 + 4*2 + 6*4 + 7*9 + 9*1 + 10*2 = 129
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yeah its fine now. thanks.
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I'm getting all fired up for TdP.
Summary
Tue Jan 29, 19 at 4:00 PM CST
Tonight
Clear. Local blowing snow in open areas early this evening. Wind north 30 km/h becoming light this evening. Low minus 39. Wind chill minus 48 in the evening and minus 53 overnight. Hazardous frostbite conditions.
Wednesday
Sunny. Wind up to 15 km/h. High minus 30. Wind chill minus 49 in the morning and minus 39 in the afternoon. Frostbite in minutes. UV index 1 or low.
Wednesday night
Clear. Becoming partly cloudy before morning. Wind up to 15 km/h. Low minus 35. Wind chill near minus 43. Frostbite in minutes.
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This is teh first time I've tried multithreaded. It flies!
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This is teh first time I've tried multithreaded. It flies!
The only way to go.
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Yeah, well with my luck, I'll find something either tonight or tomorrow, and nothing at all next month.
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Summary
Tue Jan 29, 19 at 4:00 PM CST
Tonight
Clear. Local blowing snow in open areas early this evening. Wind north 30 km/h becoming light this evening. Low minus 39. Wind chill minus 48 in the evening and minus 53 overnight. Hazardous frostbite conditions.
Wednesday
Sunny. Wind up to 15 km/h. High minus 30. Wind chill minus 49 in the morning and minus 39 in the afternoon. Frostbite in minutes. UV index 1 or low.
Wednesday night
Clear. Becoming partly cloudy before morning. Wind up to 15 km/h. Low minus 35. Wind chill near minus 43. Frostbite in minutes.
It's not quite as cold here, but I revved my machines up a couple days early, too:
Overnight
Scattered flurries with isolated snow showers before 5am, then scattered flurries after 5am. Areas of blowing snow. Mostly cloudy, with a low around -23. Wind chill values as low as -45. Breezy, with a west wind 15 to 20 mph, with gusts as high as 30 mph. Chance of precipitation is 20%.
Wednesday
Areas of blowing snow before 4pm. Mostly sunny and cold, with a high near -14. Wind chill values as low as -52. Breezy, with a west wind 15 to 20 mph, with gusts as high as 30 mph.
Wednesday Night
Mostly clear, with a low around -24. Wind chill values as low as -40. West southwest wind 5 to 15 mph, with gusts as high as 20 mph.
Thursday
A 20 percent chance of snow after noon. Increasing clouds and cold, with a high near 0. Wind chill values as low as -40. West southwest wind 5 to 10 mph becoming south in the afternoon.
Thursday Night
Snow likely, mainly before midnight. Cloudy, with a low around -1. East southeast wind around 5 mph, with gusts as high as 10 mph. Chance of precipitation is 70%. |
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Tue Jan 29, 19 at 4:00 PM CST
Tonight
Clear. Local blowing snow in open areas early this evening. Wind north 30 km/h becoming light this evening. Low minus 39. Wind chill minus 48 in the evening and minus 53 overnight. Hazardous frostbite conditions.
Wednesday
Sunny. Wind up to 15 km/h. High minus 30. Wind chill minus 49 in the morning and minus 39 in the afternoon. Frostbite in minutes. UV index 1 or low.
Wednesday night
Clear. Becoming partly cloudy before morning. Wind up to 15 km/h. Low minus 35. Wind chill near minus 43. Frostbite in minutes.
It's not quite as cold here, but I revved my machines up a couple days early, too:
Overnight
Scattered flurries with isolated snow showers before 5am, then scattered flurries after 5am. Areas of blowing snow. Mostly cloudy, with a low around -23. Wind chill values as low as -45. Breezy, with a west wind 15 to 20 mph, with gusts as high as 30 mph. Chance of precipitation is 20%.
Wednesday
Areas of blowing snow before 4pm. Mostly sunny and cold, with a high near -14. Wind chill values as low as -52. Breezy, with a west wind 15 to 20 mph, with gusts as high as 30 mph.
Wednesday Night
Mostly clear, with a low around -24. Wind chill values as low as -40. West southwest wind 5 to 15 mph, with gusts as high as 20 mph.
Thursday
A 20 percent chance of snow after noon. Increasing clouds and cold, with a high near 0. Wind chill values as low as -40. West southwest wind 5 to 10 mph becoming south in the afternoon.
Thursday Night
Snow likely, mainly before midnight. Cloudy, with a low around -1. East southeast wind around 5 mph, with gusts as high as 10 mph. Chance of precipitation is 70%.
Quite balmy in your area. My weather temperatures are in Celcius, so -53 C is -63.4 F.
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will Sophie Germain run multithreaded?
I tried:
<app>
<name>llrSGS</name>
<fraction_done_exact/>
<report_results_immediately/>
</app>
<app_version>
<app_name>llrSGS</app_name>
<cmdline>-t 6</cmdline>
<avg_ncpus>6</avg_ncpus>
</app_version>
and it's not working (PPSE is working fine, so maybe I just don't have the app name right?)
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<name>llrSGS</name>
http://www.primegrid.com/apps.php
llrTPS apparently. I'd expect efficiency to suck, and they don't qualify for TDP. |
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will Sophie Germain run multithreaded?
I tried:
<app>
<name>llrSGS</name>
<fraction_done_exact/>
<report_results_immediately/>
</app>
<app_version>
<app_name>llrSGS</app_name>
<cmdline>-t 6</cmdline>
<avg_ncpus>6</avg_ncpus>
</app_version>
and it's not working (PPSE is working fine, so maybe I just don't have the app name right?)
Try with llrTPS instead llrSGS
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Note that SGS-LLR and GFN-15 are too small to be reported to the Top 5000 primes list and are therefore not eligible for the 2019 Tour de Primes.
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92*10^1439761-1 REPDIGIT PRIME :) :) :)
314187728^131072+1 GENERALIZED FERMAT
31*332^367560+1 CRUS PRIME
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GFN-15 I knew; I must have missed Sophie Germain (edit because its not written in bold right at the top...doh!). Thanks for the reminder!
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GFN-15 I knew; I must have missed Sophie Germain. Thanks for the reminder!
Do you have any suggestion as to how I can make this more noticeable?
Michael Goetz wrote: Note that SGS-LLR and GFN-15 are too small to be reported to the Top 5000 primes list and are therefore not eligible for the 2019 Tour de Primes.
(That's a serious question. I'm always trying to find ways of improving communications.)
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GFN-15 I knew; I must have missed Sophie Germain. Thanks for the reminder!
Do you have any suggestion as to how I can make this more noticeable?
Michael Goetz wrote: Note that SGS-LLR and GFN-15 are too small to be reported to the Top 5000 primes list and are therefore not eligible for the 2019 Tour de Primes.
(That's a serious question. I'm always trying to find ways of improving communications.)
LOL. I don't think the problem is with your communication skills; you just need to attract users that actually pay attention to things written in enlarged, emboldened red font...
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LOL. I don't think the problem is with your communication skills; you just need to attract users that actually pay attention to things written in enlarged, emboldened red font...
And where is the fun in that? I also tend to not read the entire posts normally to my own confusion. |
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GFN-15 I knew; I must have missed Sophie Germain. Thanks for the reminder!
Do you have any suggestion as to how I can make this more noticeable?
Michael Goetz wrote: Note that SGS-LLR and GFN-15 are too small to be reported to the Top 5000 primes list and are therefore not eligible for the 2019 Tour de Primes.
(That's a serious question. I'm always trying to find ways of improving communications.)
LOL. I don't think the problem is with your communication skills; you just need to attract users that actually pay attention to things written in enlarged, emboldened red font...
Gotcha! We need an entrance exam!
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Gotcha! We need an entrance exam!
In my defense, I may scan things on the internet rather than read them (as, according to several studies, the majority of people do), and I may have gone into the humanities rather than the sciences, but I am not completely mathematically useless. When we were doing systems in Algebra I, I thought to myself there has to be a better way of doing this, and went about figuring out just such a way. Being rather impressed with myself, I showed my teacher only to be informed that I had replicated work done two centuries earlier - but I bet Gabriel Kramer wasn't 13 when he did it.
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Setting both BOINC cache settings to "0 days" is strongly recommended
Is this the same as Options -> Computing preferences -> Store at least 0 days of work?
Also, what is the exact time the challenge will start? Just Feb 1 12:00am on my local time? |
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Setting both BOINC cache settings to "0 days" is strongly recommended
Is this the same as Options -> Computing preferences -> Store at least 0 days of work?
Also, what is the exact time the challenge will start? Just Feb 1 12:00am on my local time?
Set BOINC computing preferences to "store at least" 0 days & "store up to an additional" 0 days.
Start time is 00:00UT. |
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Is this the same as Options -> Computing preferences -> Store at least 0 days of work?
YES
Also, what is the exact time the challenge will start? Just Feb 1 12:00am on my local time?
THE 2019 Tour de Primes Challenge starts at 00:00 UTC (Universal Coordinate Time) aka used to be called G.M.T. "Greenwich Mean Time".
There is a countdown timer on the front page to show you when it will start.
Time until Tour de Primes challenge:
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For anyone running Windows 10 Pro, Enterprise, or other non-Home versions:
You have the ability to pause updates for 30 days. So if you do Windows update between now and the start of TdP then you can pause updates after today's updates are done and not be interrupted until after TdP concludes.
Good luck and lets beat last February's mega prime count!
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Badge Score: 2*1 + 3*1 + 4*2 + 6*4 + 7*9 + 9*1 + 10*2 = 129
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Gotcha! We need an entrance exam!
In my defense, I may scan things on the internet rather than read them (as, according to several studies, the majority of people do), and I may have gone into the humanities rather than the sciences, but I am not completely mathematically useless. When we were doing systems in Algebra I, I thought to myself there has to be a better way of doing this, and went about figuring out just such a way. Being rather impressed with myself, I showed my teacher only to be informed that I had replicated work done two centuries earlier - but I bet Gabriel Kramer wasn't 13 when he did it.
I don't think it matters that someone else had done it before. Figuring it out by yourself is very impressive!
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This is the month I find a 121 and win this!
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The "Prime Rank" of PPSE LLR currently = 0 on PrimeGrid's main page. Is this normal ?
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The "Prime Rank" of PPSE LLR currently = 0 on PrimeGrid's main page. Is this normal ?
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a fluke, probably. I'm seeing a correct value (3085) right now. |
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Cherio to all : + 1
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With the start of the 2019 Tour de primes only minutes away, it's time for a...
* * * PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT * * *
Since TdP is all about finding primes, it's a good idea to set up your prime reporting preferences now, if you haven't already done so.
To set up your prime reporting preferences, click on Your account, located on the left side menu under "Returning Participants". Then click on PrimeGrid preferences, under "Preferences". Scroll down a little bit, and click on "Primary (default) preferences: Edit PrimeGrid preferences".
Now fill in the section under "Reporting primes to the Prime Pages". Click both check boxes, and enter your REAL first and last names. They're required. Entering Daffy Duck or John Q. Public will only delay getting your primes reported. Finally, scroll all the way to the bottom of the page and click the "Update preferences" button.
Alternatively, if you wish to remain anonymous, you can write "report anonymously" in the name field, or "give to DCer" and we'll report the prime in the name of the double checker.
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* * * PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT #2 * * *
Remember, SGS, GFN-15, AP27, GCW-Sieve and PPS-Sieve are not eligible for Tour de Primes.
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With the start of the 2018 Tour de primes only minutes away, it's time for a...
Copy/paste is a great thing sometimes. :)
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Badge Score: 2*1 + 3*1 + 4*2 + 6*4 + 7*9 + 9*1 + 10*2 = 129
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I was reminded that last year there was a double checker page -- all for laughs. So, here it is for 2019:
http://www.primegrid.com/challenge/tdp_2019_dc.php
Bookmark that page if you want to reference it.
Also, for anyone not around for the 2018 TdP: The competition was fierce and kind of blown out of proportion. Before going crazy worrying about being 1st vs. being the double checker, I suggest reading last year's TdP forum thread in it's entirety.
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With the start of the 2018 Tour de primes only minutes away, it's time for a...
Copy/paste is a great thing sometimes. :)
I actually changed that.
So I must have changed it from 2018 to 2018!!!
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Going to stick with SoB and forgo any practical chance of the P_2019 badge.
I suppose it's Red or Bust this year. And, more likely than not, bust. |
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Do Proth Prime Search (LLR) and Proth Prime Search Extended (LLR) count for this challenge? |
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Do Proth Prime Search (LLR) and Proth Prime Search Extended (LLR) count for this challenge?
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my current lucky number: 3749*2^1555697+1
PSA-PRPNet-Stats-URL: http://u-g-f.de/PRPNet/
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Do Proth Prime Search (LLR) and Proth Prime Search Extended (LLR) count for this challenge?
There's only 5 sub-projects that do not count:
* Sophie Germain (SGS) -- it's too small
* GFN-15 -- it's too small
* GCW-Sieve -- you can't find primes with a sieve task
* PPS-Sieve -- you can't find primes with a sieve task
* AP27 -- The primes found here are way too small
Everything else counts.
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Do Proth Prime Search (LLR) and Proth Prime Search Extended (LLR) count for this challenge?
Yes. In fact, PPSE is your best chance of finding a prime with a CPU. With a GPU, GFN-16 is your best bet. |
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Would it be possible to add some extra information on the task view under a person's account. At the top it shows In Progress, Pending, Inconclusive, Valid and so on. It also shows the projects with the number of tasks. If you click on a project the information changes to reflect just that project.
So here's my request. If I click on any project and get the following at the top
State: All 2364 | In progress 11 | Pending 467 | Inconclusive | Valid 1884 | Aborted | Invalid | Error 2
could we see the number of 1sts by the valid?
State: All 2364 | In progress 11 | Pending 467 | Inconclusive | Valid 1884 (firsts) | Aborted | Invalid | Error 2
This would allow us to see at a glace how many tasks we were first on. Now, I don't want to open a can of worms and am just asking. It seems like it might be a very intensive addition or maybe even not possible.
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Going to stick with SoB and forgo any practical chance of the P_2019 badge.
I suppose it's Red or Bust this year. And, more likely than not, bust.
SoB or sob.
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Would it be possible to add some extra information on the task view under a person's account. At the top it shows In Progress, Pending, Inconclusive, Valid and so on. It also shows the projects with the number of tasks. If you click on a project the information changes to reflect just that project.
So here's my request. If I click on any project and get the following at the top
State: All 2364 | In progress 11 | Pending 467 | Inconclusive | Valid 1884 | Aborted | Invalid | Error 2
could we see the number of 1sts by the valid?
State: All 2364 | In progress 11 | Pending 467 | Inconclusive | Valid 1884 (firsts) | Aborted | Invalid | Error 2
This would allow us to see at a glace how many tasks we were first on. Now, I don't want to open a can of worms and am just asking. It seems like it might be a very intensive addition or maybe even not possible.
Cheers
Sorry, no. That would be exceptionally difficult to do, and that page can barely keep up as it is with some of our power users.
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Sorry, no. That would be exceptionally difficult to do, and that page can barely keep up as it is with some of our power users.
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Gotcha! We need an entrance exam!
In my defense, I may scan things on the internet rather than read them (as, according to several studies, the majority of people do), and I may have gone into the humanities rather than the sciences, but I am not completely mathematically useless. When we were doing systems in Algebra I, I thought to myself there has to be a better way of doing this, and went about figuring out just such a way. Being rather impressed with myself, I showed my teacher only to be informed that I had replicated work done two centuries earlier - but I bet Gabriel Kramer wasn't 13 when he did it.
I don't think it matters that someone else had done it before. Figuring it out by yourself is very impressive!
Thanks.
I stocked up on coffee so I can stay up all night and watch my machine return composites. :(
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I stocked up on coffee so I can stay up all night and watch my machine return composites. :(
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Genefer says "56203182^131072+1 is composite".
LLR says "519*2^3591383+1 is not prime".
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10 minutes to go, best of luck everyone!
Let the crunching begin! :)
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10 minutes to go, best of luck everyone!
Let the crunching begin! :)
Robish I wish you a luck!
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Congratulations to Grebuloner for finding the first prime of TdP 2019!!!
PPSE, returned at 00:06:01 UTC.
Gratz!
(If we can find a prime every 6 minutes, we'll find 6720 primes this month! Poor Jim!)
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10 minutes to go, best of luck everyone!
Let the crunching begin! :)
Robish I wish you a luck!
You too dude! One month to find. No problem;)
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Good luck everyone!
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Are the odds any better if you multi-core work units to get them done faster or single core WU's to get more crunching at once? Or does it all even out?
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Are the odds any better if you multi-core work units to get them done faster or single core WU's to get more crunching at once? Or does it all even out?
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Congratulations to Grebuloner for finding the first prime of TdP 2019!!!
PPSE, returned at 00:06:01 UTC.
Gratz!
(If we can find a prime every 6 minutes, we'll find 6720 primes this month! Poor Jim!)
Why thank you! I saw the notification just as I was leaving work...I was curious all the way home if anyone had bested that time.
It also feels good to be on the board :)
Edit: No badge yet? Do I need to wait for the prime to show up in my found primes list?
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89 percent of my llr tasks that have validated so far have come back as 1sts... now if the server will only send me one that's prime!
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89 percent of my llr tasks that have validated so far have come back as 1sts... now if the server will only send me one that's prime!
“Patience, my friend, patience! You will find in time that it has everything to do with it.â€
― Arthur Conan Doyle, A Study in Scarlet
We just started , prime will come or will not :)
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wow. none overnight! I thought I'd wake up to 10 or more.
Maybe there's a few in the pipe.
Edit: .....and then he checks newly reported primes and yes there certainly are! :)
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wow. none overnight! I thought I'd wake up to 10 or more.
Maybe there's a few in the pipe.
Edit: .....and then he checks newly reported primes and yes there certainly are! :)
I dont see it. It is only one reported, and one badge
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wow. none overnight! I thought I'd wake up to 10 or more.
Maybe there's a few in the pipe.
Edit: .....and then he checks newly reported primes and yes there certainly are! :)
I dont see it. It is only one reported, and one badge
Newly reported primes , on the front page.
114953634^32768+1 (RickyAwesome); 5199*2^1512771+1 (Honza); 4272883102455*2^1290000-1 (jubdo); 47911922^65536+1 (Eric Nietering); 114948618^32768+1 (Johny); 4278508326057*2^1290000-1 (compalex); 8853*2^1512850+1 (Grebuloner)
Obviously not the SGS's
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wow. none overnight! I thought I'd wake up to 10 or more.
Maybe there's a few in the pipe.
Edit: .....and then he checks newly reported primes and yes there certainly are! :)
I dont see it. It is only one reported, and one badge
Newly reported primes , on the front page.
114953634^32768+1 (RickyAwesome); 5199*2^1512771+1 (Honza); 4272883102455*2^1290000-1 (jubdo); 47911922^65536+1 (Eric Nietering); 114948618^32768+1 (Johny); 4278508326057*2^1290000-1 (compalex); 8853*2^1512850+1 (Grebuloner)
Obviously not the SGS's
Where are badges from those primes ?
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wow. none overnight! I thought I'd wake up to 10 or more.
Maybe there's a few in the pipe.
Edit: .....and then he checks newly reported primes and yes there certainly are! :)
I dont see it. It is only one reported, and one badge
Newly reported primes , on the front page.
114953634^32768+1 (RickyAwesome); 5199*2^1512771+1 (Honza); 4272883102455*2^1290000-1 (jubdo); 47911922^65536+1 (Eric Nietering); 114948618^32768+1 (Johny); 4278508326057*2^1290000-1 (compalex); 8853*2^1512850+1 (Grebuloner)
Obviously not the SGS's
Other than Grebuloner, none of the top 5k ones are Feb. reports. But there ARE other ones in the pipeline.
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wow. none overnight! I thought I'd wake up to 10 or more.
Maybe there's a few in the pipe.
Edit: .....and then he checks newly reported primes and yes there certainly are! :)
I dont see it. It is only one reported, and one badge
Newly reported primes , on the front page.
114953634^32768+1 (RickyAwesome); 5199*2^1512771+1 (Honza); 4272883102455*2^1290000-1 (jubdo); 47911922^65536+1 (Eric Nietering); 114948618^32768+1 (Johny); 4278508326057*2^1290000-1 (compalex); 8853*2^1512850+1 (Grebuloner)
Obviously not the SGS's
Other than Grebuloner, none of the top 5k ones are Feb. reports. But there ARE other ones in the pipeline.
Am I lucky person or not question is now :-)
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D'oh!
47911922^65536+1 (Eric Nietering)
Time reported or deadline
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wow. none overnight! I thought I'd wake up to 10 or more.
Maybe there's a few in the pipe.
Edit: .....and then he checks newly reported primes and yes there certainly are! :)
I dont see it. It is only one reported, and one badge
Newly reported primes , on the front page.
114953634^32768+1 (RickyAwesome); 5199*2^1512771+1 (Honza); 4272883102455*2^1290000-1 (jubdo); 47911922^65536+1 (Eric Nietering); 114948618^32768+1 (Johny); 4278508326057*2^1290000-1 (compalex); 8853*2^1512850+1 (Grebuloner)
Obviously not the SGS's
Other than Grebuloner, none of the top 5k ones are Feb. reports. But there ARE other ones in the pipeline.
Oh ok. Thanks Scott.
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Other than Grebuloner, none of the top 5k ones are Feb. reports. But there ARE other ones in the pipeline.
5199*2^1512771+1 (Honza)
Yeah, mine was couple of hours before TdP start, during warm-up.
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Could I just be awarded a consolation prize for not finding anything right away, so we are done with it and I can go on to crunch something, where my slow and obsolete hardware will not cause me so much stress and aggravation? :-) :-) Perhaps a grey, or invisible jersey could serve the purpose well... :-) |
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Starting to see a time of up to 8 minutes of a delay on my rigs to report and get new tasks.
I am having to touch each host and manually clicking update to complete the report of completed tasks and get new ones, this is where I see the count down from as high as 8 minutes.
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Could I just be awarded a consolation prize for not finding anything right away, so we are done with it and I can go on to crunch something, where my slow and obsolete hardware will not cause me so much stress and aggravation? :-) :-) Perhaps a grey, or invisible jersey could serve the purpose well... :-)
I see you are not running ppse to up your chances of finding a prime AND you have a large cache of GFN16's which means, your chances of being prime finder is very very slim because you've grabbed the tasks but they are waiting to be run on your pc while those same tasks are now being sent out to other users.
As for the speed of your GPU, yes that also can limit your chances but I've found and know of folks who found primes with even slower.
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Starting to see a time of up to 8 minutes of a delay on my rigs to report and get new tasks.
I am having to touch each host and manually clicking update to complete the report of completed tasks and get new ones, this is where I see the count down from as high as 8 minutes.
Is PG having Server on Network issues?
I am not seeing any issues on the server with my connections. Is it on all your systems or just a few?
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Starting to see a time of up to 8 minutes of a delay on my rigs to report and get new tasks.
I am having to touch each host and manually clicking update to complete the report of completed tasks and get new ones, this is where I see the count down from as high as 8 minutes.
Is PG having Server on Network issues?
I am not seeing any issues on the server with my connections. Is it on all your systems or just a few?
This happened to me too. Had to manually press update. Now I'm wondering if all my remote PC's are just going to wait until I have physical access in a couple of days...? |
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Could I just be awarded a consolation prize for not finding anything right away, so we are done with it and I can go on to crunch something, where my slow and obsolete hardware will not cause me so much stress and aggravation? :-) :-) Perhaps a grey, or invisible jersey could serve the purpose well... :-)
Here, stick this at the bottom of your avatar:
I added a few extra years so you don't have to work on it for quite awhile yet. You're welcome! ;) |
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Starting to see a time of up to 8 minutes of a delay on my rigs to report and get new tasks.
I am having to touch each host and manually clicking update to complete the report of completed tasks and get new ones, this is where I see the count down from as high as 8 minutes.
Is PG having Server on Network issues?
We just brought Do You feel Lucky? online, and I had to bounce the server a few times. That can cause your computers to back off for a few minutes.
It's temporary.
Round trip time for reporting or requesting tasks for me is 1 or 2 seconds, and that's from the other side of the planet. If you're in Europe it might be faster.
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Are the odds any better if you multi-core work units to get them done faster or single core WU's to get more crunching at once? Or does it all even out?
It's hard to tell. It depends on what everyone else is doing. If you are the only person doing single core WU then you are most likely to be the double-checker.
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I see that I am up to two double-checks today. Probably more than 75% of my work is 1st returned.... just my lucky day I guess.
Maybe next year a badge can be given for top double-checker? |
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I see that I am up to two double-checks today. Probably more than 75% of my work is 1st returned.... just my lucky day I guess.
Maybe next year a badge can be given for top double-checker?
Hey, now there's an idea! Could we get a badge for Mega Doublechecker in general? I wanna be able to say I earned my MD. ;) |
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I see that I am up to two double-checks today. Probably more than 75% of my work is 1st returned.... just my lucky day I guess.
Maybe next year a badge can be given for top double-checker?
No badge, but there is a just-for-laughs competition for the most prolific double-checkers:
https://www.primegrid.com/challenge/tdp_2019_dc.php
(We did this last year too.)
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I see that I am up to two double-checks today. Probably more than 75% of my work is 1st returned.... just my lucky day I guess.
Maybe next year a badge can be given for top double-checker?
Hey, now there's an idea! Could we get a badge for Mega Doublechecker in general? I wanna be able to say I earned my MD. ;)
Mike already put together a double-checker stats page where you can see how you would fair in the DC rankings.
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Starting to see a time of up to 8 minutes of a delay on my rigs to report and get new tasks.
I am having to touch each host and manually clicking update to complete the report of completed tasks and get new ones, this is where I see the count down from as high as 8 minutes.
Is PG having Server on Network issues?
We just brought Do You feel Lucky? online, and I had to bounce the server a few times. That can cause your computers to back off for a few minutes.
It's temporary.
Round trip time for reporting or requesting tasks for me is 1 or 2 seconds, and that's from the other side of the planet. If you're in Europe it might be faster.
I'm having an issue with multiple CPU tasks shown "in progress" on my task listing page though only one is showing in BOINC manager. I don't know if this is a related issue, but I thought I'd let you know just in case.
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We are already up to 8 primes showing for TDP with about 5 hours left in the first day (and a few more not yet showing). If you are curious how we are doing compared to last year, we found 11 primes on the first day of the 2018 TDP (and those primes were generally just a bit smaller than these).
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I see that I am up to two double-checks today. Probably more than 75% of my work is 1st returned.... just my lucky day I guess.
Maybe next year a badge can be given for top double-checker?
Hey, now there's an idea! Could we get a badge for Mega Doublechecker in general? I wanna be able to say I earned my MD. ;)
Mike already put together a double-checker stats page where you can see how you would fair in the DC rankings.
EDIT: Man, Mike, you are the fastest poster in the west!
They don't give this out for nothing!
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Starting to see a time of up to 8 minutes of a delay on my rigs to report and get new tasks.
I am having to touch each host and manually clicking update to complete the report of completed tasks and get new ones, this is where I see the count down from as high as 8 minutes.
Is PG having Server on Network issues?
We just brought Do You feel Lucky? online, and I had to bounce the server a few times. That can cause your computers to back off for a few minutes.
It's temporary.
Round trip time for reporting or requesting tasks for me is 1 or 2 seconds, and that's from the other side of the planet. If you're in Europe it might be faster.
I'm having an issue with multiple CPU tasks shown "in progress" on my task listing page though only one is showing in BOINC manager. I don't know if this is a related issue, but I thought I'd let you know just in case.
It's not related.
Sometimes, there's communications glitches, and tasks get lost when they're sent from the server.
Just ignore the missing tasks.
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Just a thought.
If it does not require a big effort, would it be possible to include a column (sortable) with the user's team in the TdP result ?
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Just a thought.
If it does not require a big effort, would it be possible to include a column (sortable) with the user's team in the TdP result ?
I'll look into it.
I had already typed out a "sorry, no" response, explaining why it was impossible because the team ID isn't stored where it would need to be in order to fulfill your request, when I decided to check whether my recollection of the elevant table structure was correct.
I was wrong, and it might be possible.
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Just a thought.
If it does not require a big effort, would it be possible to include a column (sortable) with the user's team in the TdP result ?
I'll look into it.
I had already typed out a "sorry, no" response, explaining why it was impossible because the team ID isn't stored where it would need to be in order to fulfill your request, when I decided to check whether my recollection of the elevant table structure was correct.
I was wrong, and it might be possible.
Unfortunately, upon further investigation, it's not possible. Sorry!
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Michael Goetz wrote: Unfortunately, upon further investigation, it's not possible. Sorry!
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Thank you for your attention !
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Hei, so what is better gfn 16 or 21 ? on 16 i have some "1.st" but dont see "record" ..
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Looks like this years it is going to be rocky reporting tasks in a timely manner.
I guess the Server moves from the end of last year has some impacts after all.
It is still nice to see the Primes now rolling in. |
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Hei, so what is better gfn 16 or 21 ? on 16 i have some "1.st" but dont see "record" ..
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The chances of finding a GFN-21 are extremely small (nobody has ever found one). If your goal is to get a TdP badge by finding a prime, GFN-16 is your best bet on a GPU. Don't worry so much about "1st". The hard part is running enough tasks to find a prime. On average you have a 50% chance of being "1st", but your chance of checking a task which is prime is only about 0.006%.
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Looks like this years it is going to be rocky reporting tasks in a timely manner.
I guess the Server moves from the end of last year has some impacts after all.
It is still nice to see the Primes now rolling in.
None of that is true.
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Looks like this years it is going to be rocky reporting tasks in a timely manner.
I guess the Server moves from the end of last year has some impacts after all.
It is still nice to see the Primes now rolling in.
None of that is true.
I see 12 Primes so not sure why you are saying none of that is True.
I am still having problems with tasks reporting from Colorado.
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Scott Brown wrote: ... we found 11 primes on the first day of the 2018 TDP (and those primes were generally just a bit smaller than these).
Well, now, 2 hours to complete the first day, we have 12 primes found !
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Looks like this years it is going to be rocky reporting tasks in a timely manner.
I guess the Server moves from the end of last year has some impacts after all.
It is still nice to see the Primes now rolling in.
None of that is true.
I see 12 Primes so not sure why you are saying none of that is True.
I am still having problems with tasks reporting from Colorado.
As well as getting new ones.
The server is working fine. It's more powerful and substantially faster than the old server.
If you're having problems, please post relevant BOINC log entries IN A DIFFERENT THREAD and we'll try to help. It's unlikely your difficulties are related to TdP, and this thread is going to grow to many hundreds of posts as it is and I'd prefer to keep extraneous tangents out of it.
Thank you!
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Speaking of "server problems", I got bit by a server problem that stopped my computer from downloading PPSE tasks.
But the server with the problem was NOT the PrimeGrid server. It was the "Monkeys" server, aka goofyxgrid.
It's supposed to be serving up NCI (non-compute-intensive) tasks, but it sent my main computer four tasks that were incorrectly lacking the NCI designation. As a result, BOINC allocated all four cores to these Monkey tasks. Normally they don't use any cores at all.
Since the Monkey tasks were occupying all the cores, BOINC wouldn't run any PPSE tasks.
Goofyxgrid just recovered from a major outage, and there's been some configuration issues as he gets everything back up to speed.
So if you're also running "Monkeys", be warned: a configuration issue on his server may prevent you from running normal tasks from other servers, including PrimeGrid.
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Looks like this years it is going to be rocky reporting tasks in a timely manner.
I guess the Server moves from the end of last year has some impacts after all.
It is still nice to see the Primes now rolling in.
None of that is true.
I see 12 Primes so not sure why you are saying none of that is True.
I am still having problems with tasks reporting from Colorado.
As well as getting new ones.
The server is working fine. It's more powerful and substantially faster than the old server.
If you're having problems, please post relevant BOINC log entries IN A DIFFERENT THREAD and we'll try to help. It's unlikely your difficulties are related to TdP, and this thread is going to grow to many hundreds of posts as it is and I'd prefer to keep extraneous tangents out of it.
Thank you!
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My Reference is the Move and not really the Server
http://www.primegrid.com/forum_thread.php?id=7592&nowrap=true#109782 |
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Could I just be awarded a consolation prize for not finding anything right away, so we are done with it and I can go on to crunch something, where my slow and obsolete hardware will not cause me so much stress and aggravation? :-) :-) Perhaps a grey, or invisible jersey could serve the purpose well... :-)
I think a bare outline of a jersey would be cool. Ah, maybe any empty jersey for most prime doublechecks. |
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I think a bare outline of a jersey would be cool. Ah, maybe any empty jersey for most prime doublechecks.
LOL... First Loser!!! hahaha |
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I think a bare outline of a jersey would be cool. Ah, maybe any empty jersey for most prime doublechecks.
LOL... First Loser!!! hahaha
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I guess the worst is to be triple checker. Anyone?
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I guess the worst is to be triple checker. Anyone?
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The worst that happens IMO is:
Folks that download a poop ton of tasks and then abort them anywhere from 5 mins to 4 hours later and you seem to catch them all. Or same said situation and they let them time out.
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I'm in!
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No, the worst is to be the one needing to be triple-checked and ending up not in agreement with the other two.
Well, I was talking about discovering a prime. Triple checker would have lost to be second. :)
If your result is invalid on this project, it's likely your fault and it doesn't matter if you are first tester or double checker. Your test said: "k*b^n is not prime", so you have not anything to claim.
Not a prime, but desperate waiting for triple checking here: https://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=592573288 ;)
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I think a bare outline of a jersey would be cool. Ah, maybe any empty jersey for most prime doublechecks.
LOL... First Loser!!! hahaha
Double checkers are not losers. On the opposite, they're the giants on whose shoulders the prime finders stand.
I think everyone totally recognizes the double checkers are a necessary part of the project, just as the sievers are totally necessary too but also get zero credit in the record book. Was just a light hearted comment on the reality of the official record book. :-)
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Looks like this years it is going to be rocky reporting tasks in a timely manner.
I guess the Server moves from the end of last year has some impacts after all.
It is still nice to see the Primes now rolling in.
None of that is true.
I see 12 Primes so not sure why you are saying none of that is True.
I am still having problems with tasks reporting from Colorado.
As well as getting new ones.
The server is working fine. It's more powerful and substantially faster than the old server.
If you're having problems, please post relevant BOINC log entries IN A DIFFERENT THREAD and we'll try to help. It's unlikely your difficulties are related to TdP, and this thread is going to grow to many hundreds of posts as it is and I'd prefer to keep extraneous tangents out of it.
Thank you!
Will Do,
My Reference is the Move and not really the Server
http://www.primegrid.com/forum_thread.php?id=7592&nowrap=true#109782
You've got a PPSE prime in the pipeline. Congratulations!
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Looks like this years it is going to be rocky reporting tasks in a timely manner.
I guess the Server moves from the end of last year has some impacts after all.
It is still nice to see the Primes now rolling in.
None of that is true.
I see 12 Primes so not sure why you are saying none of that is True.
I am still having problems with tasks reporting from Colorado.
As well as getting new ones.
The server is working fine. It's more powerful and substantially faster than the old server.
If you're having problems, please post relevant BOINC log entries IN A DIFFERENT THREAD and we'll try to help. It's unlikely your difficulties are related to TdP, and this thread is going to grow to many hundreds of posts as it is and I'd prefer to keep extraneous tangents out of it.
Thank you!
Will Do,
My Reference is the Move and not really the Server
http://www.primegrid.com/forum_thread.php?id=7592&nowrap=true#109782
You've got a PPSE prime in the pipeline. Congratulations!
It looks like right strategy to get prime is to be angry at Primegrid server :))
I am very very very angry :))
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92*10^1439761-1 REPDIGIT PRIME :) :) :)
314187728^131072+1 GENERALIZED FERMAT
31*332^367560+1 CRUS PRIME
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There's a 17-mega in the pipeline, found by recoil44. Congratulations!
That's the first mega prime of TdP.
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Wow, congratulations !
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There's a 17-mega in the pipeline, found by recoil44. Congratulations!
That's the first mega prime of TdP.
Congratulations!
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It looks like right strategy to get prime is to be angry at Primegrid server :))
I am very very very angry :))
I'm furious!
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There's a 17-mega in the pipeline, found by recoil44. Congratulations!
That's the first mega prime of TdP.
Cool! Congrats Recoil44!
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Your test said: "k*b^n is not prime", so you have not anything to claim.
Ooops! k*b^n±1.
Congratz Recoil44!
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It looks like right strategy to get prime is to be angry at Primegrid server :))
I am very very very angry :))
I'm furious!
So I will become furious also :)))
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There's a 17-mega in the pipeline, found by recoil44. Congratulations!
That's the first mega prime of TdP.
Also my first mega prime ever! |
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There's a 17-mega in the pipeline, found by recoil44. Congratulations!
That's the first mega prime of TdP.
Also my first mega prime ever!
And three new badges for you!
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There's a 17-mega in the pipeline, found by recoil44. Congratulations!
That's the first mega prime of TdP.
Also my first mega prime ever!
Wowsers congratulations! |
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There's a 17-mega in the pipeline, found by recoil44. Congratulations!
That's the first mega prime of TdP.
Also my first mega prime ever!
And three new badges for you!
Very, very, very cool ;)
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There's a 17-mega in the pipeline, found by recoil44. Congratulations!
That's the first mega prime of TdP.
Also my first mega prime ever!
Nice gift :) 3 in 1
Congratulations :)
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recoil44 wrote: There's a 17-mega in the pipeline, found by recoil44. Congratulations!
That's the first mega prime of TdP.
Also my first mega prime ever!
Now that is something to celebrate !
Congratulations, again !
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2/2/2019 18:52:45 | PrimeGrid | Finished upload of genefer16_21425918_1_r949423969_0
2/2/2019 18:52:45 | PrimeGrid | Sending scheduler request: To report completed tasks.
2/2/2019 18:52:45 | PrimeGrid | Reporting 1 completed tasks
2/2/2019 18:52:45 | PrimeGrid | Requesting new tasks for NVIDIA GPU
2/2/2019 18:52:47 | PrimeGrid | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
2/2/2019 18:52:47 | PrimeGrid | Project is temporarily shut down for maintenance
2/2/2019 18:54:26 | PrimeGrid | Computation for task genefer16_21426003_0 finished
2/2/2019 18:54:28 | PrimeGrid | Started upload of genefer16_21426003_0_r239067688_0
2/2/2019 18:54:30 | PrimeGrid | Finished upload of genefer16_21426003_0_r239067688_0
2/2/2019 19:02:29 | PrimeGrid | update requested by user
Anyone else get the maintenance message? I was in "time out" for several minutes until I hit update. |
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2/2/2019 18:52:45 | PrimeGrid | Finished upload of genefer16_21425918_1_r949423969_0
2/2/2019 18:52:45 | PrimeGrid | Sending scheduler request: To report completed tasks.
2/2/2019 18:52:45 | PrimeGrid | Reporting 1 completed tasks
2/2/2019 18:52:45 | PrimeGrid | Requesting new tasks for NVIDIA GPU
2/2/2019 18:52:47 | PrimeGrid | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
2/2/2019 18:52:47 | PrimeGrid | Project is temporarily shut down for maintenance
2/2/2019 18:54:26 | PrimeGrid | Computation for task genefer16_21426003_0 finished
2/2/2019 18:54:28 | PrimeGrid | Started upload of genefer16_21426003_0_r239067688_0
2/2/2019 18:54:30 | PrimeGrid | Finished upload of genefer16_21426003_0_r239067688_0
2/2/2019 19:02:29 | PrimeGrid | update requested by user
Anyone else get the maintenance message? I was in "time out" for several minutes until I hit update.
That was me tuning some parameters on the server. If your computer happens to try to connect during the couple of seconds while I have the server shut down, it will back off for a couple of minutes before trying again. If you don't notice, it will cost you a few minutes, but that's all.
During regular challenges, I avoid doing these momentary shut downs (it's actually just reloading the BOINC software), but I can't avoid doing it for a whole month. During February, however, people notice it. :)
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The time in the event log is your local time.
What UTC time was that ?
Anyway, I didn't have any issues like that in the last 3 hours.
Edit: Michael posted while I was writting.
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Just caught me by surprise is all, time matters in this challenge and I was sitting on completed tasks!! LOL Thanks for the reply!! |
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Just caught me by surprise is all, time matters in this challenge and I was sitting on completed tasks!! LOL Thanks for the reply!!
Yes it does Old Friend. |
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2/2/2019 18:52:45 | PrimeGrid | Finished upload of genefer16_21425918_1_r949423969_0
2/2/2019 18:52:45 | PrimeGrid | Sending scheduler request: To report completed tasks.
2/2/2019 18:52:45 | PrimeGrid | Reporting 1 completed tasks
2/2/2019 18:52:45 | PrimeGrid | Requesting new tasks for NVIDIA GPU
2/2/2019 18:52:47 | PrimeGrid | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
2/2/2019 18:52:47 | PrimeGrid | Project is temporarily shut down for maintenance
2/2/2019 18:54:26 | PrimeGrid | Computation for task genefer16_21426003_0 finished
2/2/2019 18:54:28 | PrimeGrid | Started upload of genefer16_21426003_0_r239067688_0
2/2/2019 18:54:30 | PrimeGrid | Finished upload of genefer16_21426003_0_r239067688_0
2/2/2019 19:02:29 | PrimeGrid | update requested by user
Anyone else get the maintenance message? I was in "time out" for several minutes until I hit update.
Yes and I just had 8 Tasks Sitting in Limbo waiting only to report
Some say seconds do not Count but when you are waiting Minutes it can kill you
Seconds Count, Indeed they DO.
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Exciting, just ran across this Tour. Hopefully I will find a Prime this year.
Congrats to those who already have some behind their belt. |
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GFN Primality has been running on the Server status page for a long while, could it be another Mega?! :)
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Am I wrong or can this challenge be very frustrating?
Especially when you found 13800346^131072+1 935,840 (decimal) on 2019-01-27 12:54:48
(My second prime only)
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GFN Primality has been running on the Server status page for a long while, could it be another Mega?! :)
It's very hard for you to tell if the GFN being checked now is the same GFN that was checked before. We find a lot more primes in February than any other month and the server is almost continuously checking primes.
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Jordan Romaidis wrote: Are the odds any better if you multi-core work units to get them done faster or single core WU's to get more crunching at once? Or does it all even out?
It's hard to tell. It depends on what everyone else is doing. If you are the only person doing single core WU then you are most likely to be the double-checker.
Since primes are so scarce, your best odds of being a prime finder OR of being a double-checker are with the configuration that maximizes throughput (tasks per day).
The first answer I gave above assumes that you want to be a prime finder, since that is what gets a TdP badge. Any reference to being 1st works on this assumption. So for example
TheCruelLogician wrote: 89 percent of my llr tasks that have validated so far have come back as 1sts... now if the server will only send me one that's prime!
understates the actual percentage of 1st, since pending tasks are also 1st unless there is a validation error.
The slowest machines will rarely be 1st regardless their configuration, while the fastest ones needlessly sacrifice throughput to always be 1st by a large margin. What prime-seekers really need is a periodically updated histogram for each sub-project, showing % returned 1st versus runtime, for say the last 1000 validated WU (by all participants). The bins chosen for the histogram can be somewhat arbitrary, according to the server resources available. This histogram would allow each participant to assess whether sacrificing throughput (to cut the runtime) is an acceptable tradeoff for a particular machine, or to work on a different subproject. |
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The slowest machines will rarely be 1st regardless their configuration, while the fastest ones needlessly sacrifice throughput to always be 1st by a large margin. What prime-seekers really need is a periodically updated histogram for each sub-project, showing % returned 1st versus runtime, for say the last 1000 validated WU (by all participants). The bins chosen for the histogram can be somewhat arbitrary, according to the server resources available. This histogram would allow each participant to assess whether sacrificing throughput (to cut the runtime) is an acceptable tradeoff for a particular machine, or to work on a different subproject.
I think it could be simpler. What we need, for each project, is the recent median return time (as opposed to average run time). If your machine returns results at least that fast, at least 50% of your work will be 1st. If not, less than 50% of it will be.
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I'm expecting to have my main rig back from asus between the 21st and 28th, no prime for me this year, unless my laptop gets extraordinarily lucky, it did find my very first prime to be fair. gfn-15. |
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Am I wrong or can this challenge be very frustrating?
Especially when you found 13800346^131072+1 935,840 (decimal) on 2019-01-27 12:54:48
(My second prime only)
Have Fun !
Let's say it's good to exercise your patience. I found 3 PPSE just before the challenge started and nothing since. Sometimes, random distribution can be frustrating, but there is nothing to be done. |
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As a member of Canada, can I say how unfortunate it is for me but how awesome it should be to use our computers to heat our homes in this current weather for TDP. (-29C ambient today) |
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Am I wrong or can this challenge be very frustrating?
Especially when you found 13800346^131072+1 935,840 (decimal) on 2019-01-27 12:54:48
(My second prime only)
Have Fun !
Let's say it's good to exercise your patience. I found 3 PPSE just before the challenge started and nothing since. Sometimes, random distribution can be frustrating, but there is nothing to be done.
Maybe not as random as you think. In your case, you may have had a significantly larger slice of all the PPSE tasks issued prior to the challenge, so your chance of finding them was higher. One strategy being used in the challenge is to work on PPSE to obtain the 2019 P badge, and then switch to longer LLR tasks to get a very high scoring prime. |
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Ken_g6 wrote: The slowest machines will rarely be 1st regardless their configuration, while the fastest ones needlessly sacrifice throughput to always be 1st by a large margin. What prime-seekers really need is a periodically updated histogram for each sub-project, showing % returned 1st versus runtime, for say the last 1000 validated WU (by all participants). The bins chosen for the histogram can be somewhat arbitrary, according to the server resources available. This histogram would allow each participant to assess whether sacrificing throughput (to cut the runtime) is an acceptable tradeoff for a particular machine, or to work on a different subproject.
I think it could be simpler. What we need, for each project, is the recent median return time (as opposed to average run time). If your machine returns results at least that fast, at least 50% of your work will be 1st. If not, less than 50% of it will be.
Median run time could also be useful, though less accurate, if it's easier for you to do
It must be Groundhog Day (or thereabouts).
We've been through this same discussion last year.
Except that this time it's a global statistic rather than for each task. This might make more sense to Mike.
EDIT: This was considered too. But the database server is already too overworked during TdP to spend much time sorting the runtime column so that it can select the runtime halfway down. |
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