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Gents,
It is always exciting when a new project opens up. Just the other day we had the addition of a new project forum ("Wieferich and Wall-Sun-Sun Prime Search") and now under our badge list we have the WW being noted as another available badge.
There is a tentative start date of about Dec 1st for the new WW badge ... fingers crossed we are on schedule. |
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I noticed the new forum appear. I can't remember far enough back, but I think I ran it a bit through PSA. It currently says on the post it will be up within a week of the post, which puts it at sunday, just after the current challenge is over. So, I guess I'll be joining others in getting that badge level up then. |
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I noticed the new forum appear. I can't remember far enough back, but I think I ran it a bit through PSA. It currently says on the post it will be up within a week of the post, which puts it at sunday, just after the current challenge is over. So, I guess I'll be joining others in getting that badge level up then.
I am making really good progress for a new GFN badge at 100M but I/we now have this new project to contemplate. I will check with Roger to see what kind of time frame is involved with the new project in the event that it is urgent we start on it as soon as possible for the next brown shield at 100M. |
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Way back in the day as I recall, before WSW made it to PSA, AtP were invited to trial it. Possibly Rick recalls? I don't think there are many other people from then who still post but of course lovely to hear from them. |
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I think maybe I did some testing but not sure. I do know however we did run the challenges over there. I love those projects and can't wait to get started on them. So glad it was moved to PG. No idea on how fast they run or what not but am looking forward to it.
AtP ruled the challenges back in the day over there. |
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I think maybe I did some testing but not sure. I do know however we did run the challenges over there. I love those projects and can't wait to get started on them. So glad it was moved to PG. No idea on how fast they run or what not but am looking forward to it.
AtP ruled the challenges back in the day over there.
Used to run these on PrPnet as well, but before I was an AtP member. Much fun then and looking forward to it now on BOINC.
You can expect run times to be similar to the current AP27 application. Also with similar credit of about 4,000 per work unit.
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You can expect run times to be similar to the current AP27 application. Also with similar credit of about 4,000 per work unit.
Ugghhhh - back then they were like really fast... oh well still looking forward to running them! |
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YAY! WSS was my very favorite project to run when it was on PRPNet. Looks like I'm still ranked 14th over there in credit, right behind Golferdude and Gary (and well behind Scott, Rick, Brink and Z-Man).
I'll be all-in when it starts up. I think it is a very exciting project as Wall-Sun-Sun primes are conjectured to exist, but none has ever been found.
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I think some folks MAY wish to change their preferences! ;-) |
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I think some folks MAY wish to change their preferences! ;-)
I just did. But forgot GFN-20 also ticked and got one task before I unchecked it.
I won't abort it.
So a few hours until I get my first WW task :)
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Has it been turned on? Not getting CPU or nvidia tasks from it. Front page shows "coming soon" and 2 units available which doesn't change. |
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Has it been turned on? Not getting CPU or nvidia tasks from it. Front page shows "coming soon" and 2 units available which doesn't change.
Preferences give you option to run but no tasks? |
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Has it been turned on? Not getting CPU or nvidia tasks from it. Front page shows "coming soon" and 2 units available which doesn't change.
It's available for me in PrimeGrid Preferences.
But, like I posted, it will take a few hours for me to find out if it's working OK.
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Yes, I tried setting up only WW for CPU+GPU and I was getting no work. I've added some other stuff to keep the heating going and see if it picks up any later. |
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Admin testing right now. Expect it live anywhere from a few minutes to a couple of hours.
EDIT: Validations going well...should be released soon.
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Thanks !
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Units available as of 12 minutes ago. |
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Good to know.
Anxious to get one.
Still 1 hour to finish current GFN-20 :(
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Hmm... CPU units running 2 cores look like they're around a day each... best to stick to GPU for this one I guess. |
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Hmm... CPU units running 2 cores look like they're around a day each... best to stick to GPU for this one I guess.
Yeah but in a pinch cpu can be counted on |
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Michael just posted in the open forum that his 3700X takes 6 hours using all 16 threads, and that SMT is beneficial. Scaling my predicted times, that would suggest quite a boost in throughput from SMT as well as throwing more threads at it in general.
Still, it is far slower than a GPU. As said, my 1080Ti at 75% power limit was taking around 21 minutes. I just swapped that 1080Ti with a 2070 as part of a reorganisation. The first unit just completed, taking around 10 minutes. 2x faster! Note the 2070 is also running at 75% power limit. I recall with Turing they changed something which allowed more parallel operations, and I guess we are seeing that really help in this use case.
I usually run at a reduced power limit since it helps a lot with thermals and noise, and the drop in performance is a lot less than the reduction in power.
Edit: Vega 56 at 75% power limit: 45 minutes. Not worth it for me... |
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My 1660 Super stay in state I mine ETH, so memory is +750 and power limit is at 66%
Run time is around 915 seconds ( but there is few faster ones)
Silver badge will be over in few minutes ( ah I missed old time when you need to work few days for silver badge) :)
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@Anthony, how are your GTX 1060 cards doing with WW? Mine are averaging ~5000 seconds/task. That's less than 1/3 the speed of my RTX 2060 (~1300 seconds/task).
My 1060's don't underperform the 2060s by that much on anything else. Is it just me, or are 1060's really just not very good at WW?
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@Anthony, how are your GTX 1060 cards doing with WW? Mine are averaging ~5000 seconds/task. That's less than 1/3 the speed of my RTX 2060 (~1300 seconds/task).
My 1060's don't underperform the 2060s by that much on anything else. Is it just me, or are 1060's really just not very good at WW?
It is not just you: my 1070 take 2700 seconds and 1660 take 920 (average)...
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There were changes to how the execution units work in turing compared to Ampere. It can help a lot in some compute workloads. I guess this is one where it makes a bigger difference. |
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There were changes to how the execution units work in turing compared to Ampere. It can help a lot in some compute workloads. I guess this is one where it makes a bigger difference.
Pascal: one 16-bit multiplier per core. Turing, Ampere: one 32-bit multiplier per core. That drives the differences you are seeing.
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@Anthony, how are your GTX 1060 cards doing with WW? Mine are averaging ~5000 seconds/task. That's less than 1/3 the speed of my RTX 2060 (~1300 seconds/task).
My 1060's don't underperform the 2060s by that much on anything else. Is it just me, or are 1060's really just not very good at WW?
It is not just you: my 1070 take 2700 seconds and 1660 take 920 (average)...
2080 is ~400s. Surprised it's that much faster than a 2060. |
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2080 is ~400s. Surprised it's that much faster than a 2060.
Yeah my 2080's are running about the same - 412s ish... but the 2080 Ti is in 340s ish range.. big difference and I have all the cards running at their stock speed (well whatever was set on "default") no over clocking... |
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@Anthony, how are your GTX 1060 cards doing with WW? Mine are averaging ~5000 seconds/task. That's less than 1/3 the speed of my RTX 2060 (~1300 seconds/task).
Those times are WAY too high!
My MSI GTX 1060 Gaming OC (3 Gb) is running at constantly 3200-3350 secs and that is with WOO also hogging the CPUs. See stats here: https://www.primegrid.com/results.php?hostid=523892&offset=0&show_names=0&state=0&appid=33 and with a sample size of 31 units so far. It started a little late due to a GFN (DYFL) task that finished after the start of WW.
My Gigagbyte GTX 1060 OC (3 Gb) is ever so slightly higher at about 3350-3450 secs. Stats here: https://www.primegrid.com/results.php?hostid=519804&offset=0&show_names=0&state=0&appid=33 with a sample size of 45 units.
I have not touched the OC at my end .... whatever the factory setting was is where I am sitting at.
By the way, my GPU temps are about 62d C .... I am quite surprised by your run times.
Later today I will add my MSI GTX 1080 Gaming card into my Kaby Lake system. |
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@Anthony, how are your GTX 1060 cards doing with WW? Mine are averaging ~5000 seconds/task. That's less than 1/3 the speed of my RTX 2060 (~1300 seconds/task).
Those times are WAY too high!
My MSI GTX 1060 Gaming OC (3 Gb) is running at constantly 3200-3350 secs and that is with WOO also hogging the CPUs. See stats here: https://www.primegrid.com/results.php?hostid=523892&offset=0&show_names=0&state=0&appid=33 and with a sample size of 31 units so far. It started a little late due to a GFN (DYFL) task that finished after the start of WW.
My Gigagbyte GTX 1060 OC (3 Gb) is ever so slightly higher at about 3350-3450 secs. Stats here: https://www.primegrid.com/results.php?hostid=519804&offset=0&show_names=0&state=0&appid=33 with a sample size of 45 units.
I have not touched the OC at my end .... whatever the factory setting was is where I am sitting at.
By the way, my GPU temps are about 62d C .... I am quite surprised by your run times.
Later today I will add my MSI GTX 1080 Gaming card into my Kaby Lake system.
Hmm, I'll have to do some troubleshooting, then. It's good to have a target time for what's reasonable!
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With over 64,000 results already in the database as per the project status page, we are already past 1% of the 4.6 million work units available for this project. Fingers crossed it does not become a rat race and a project which ends way too soon.
Some very revealing stats: https://stats.free-dc.org/subproj/pgrid/WW. |
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Hmm, I'll have to do some troubleshooting, then. It's good to have a target time for what's reasonable!
My MSI Afterburner stats are as follows:
MSI GTX 1060 ............ 1936 MHz / 3802 MHz ... 58d C
Gigagbyte GTX 1060 ... 1911 MHz / 3802 MHz ... 59d C
I hope the above stats help. |
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@Anthony, how are your GTX 1060 cards doing with WW? Mine are averaging ~5000 seconds/task. That's less than 1/3 the speed of my RTX 2060 (~1300 seconds/task).
Those times are WAY too high!
My MSI GTX 1060 Gaming OC (3 Gb) is running at constantly 3200-3350 secs and that is with WOO also hogging the CPUs. See stats here: https://www.primegrid.com/results.php?hostid=523892&offset=0&show_names=0&state=0&appid=33 and with a sample size of 31 units so far. It started a little late due to a GFN (DYFL) task that finished after the start of WW.
My Gigagbyte GTX 1060 OC (3 Gb) is ever so slightly higher at about 3350-3450 secs. Stats here: https://www.primegrid.com/results.php?hostid=519804&offset=0&show_names=0&state=0&appid=33 with a sample size of 45 units.
I have not touched the OC at my end .... whatever the factory setting was is where I am sitting at.
By the way, my GPU temps are about 62d C .... I am quite surprised by your run times.
Later today I will add my MSI GTX 1080 Gaming card into my Kaby Lake system.
Hmm, I'll have to do some troubleshooting, then. It's good to have a target time for what's reasonable!
AA's 1060 3GB times are exceptionally good. That is likely due to the OC on the card. His times are consistent or even a bit better with most 1060 6GB cards. Your 1060 3GB times are a bit slow, but not terribly different than my 1060 3GB card that was an OEM pull (i.e., slower stock clocks).
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With over 64,000 results already in the database as per the project status page, we are already past 1% of the 4.6 million work units available for this project. Fingers crossed it does not become a rat race and a project which ends way too soon.
Some very revealing stats: https://stats.free-dc.org/subproj/pgrid/WW.
Well there will be some drop off during the next challenge I predict :) |
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Hmm, I'll have to do some troubleshooting, then. It's good to have a target time for what's reasonable!
My MSI Afterburner stats are as follows:
MSI GTX 1060 ............ 1936 MHz / 3802 MHz ... 58d C
Gigagbyte GTX 1060 ... 1911 MHz / 3802 MHz ... 59d C
I hope the above stats help.
Stock clocks are 1708. The increase in SP performance with those clocks makes them slightly better than a stock 1060 6GB. In other words, your times are among the fastest that we will see with 1060 3GB cards.
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With over 64,000 results already in the database as per the project status page, we are already past 1% of the 4.6 million work units available for this project. Fingers crossed it does not become a rat race and a project which ends way too soon.
Some very revealing stats: https://stats.free-dc.org/subproj/pgrid/WW.
Well there will be some drop off during the next challenge I predict :)
I am counting on it or otherwise SOL! :-( |
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With over 64,000 results already in the database as per the project status page, we are already past 1% of the 4.6 million work units available for this project. Fingers crossed it does not become a rat race and a project which ends way too soon.
Some very revealing stats: https://stats.free-dc.org/subproj/pgrid/WW.
There may be an elevated rate at the moment as everyone goes after the new badge levels.
Also, according to those stats I'm currently 69th. Nice. |
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Also, according to those stats I'm currently 69th. Nice.
Nice ! |
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Gents,
The past few hours we have been privy to a new optimized version of the app for WW and which allows one to process a unit approximately three times as fast. We are now crunching units which are three times as large as the original ones and with three times the credit. My run times have decreased slightly with the new units requiring about 5% less time as well. |
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This is insane, 12000 credits per workunit.
And I process one workunit below 1000 seconds. So in less then 4 hours (with 8 GPU) I will be on amethyst badge ( start from silver)....
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This is insane, 12000 credits per workunit.
For some of us with older GPU's (GTX 10xx), the credit is much more reasonable now. |
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This is insane, 12000 credits per workunit.
For some of us with older GPU's (GTX 10xx), the credit is much more reasonable now.
WOW, what difference , you process workunit near hour...
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