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Profile dannyridel
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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (100,228)Cullen LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (36,962)ESP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (36,309)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (22,645)PPS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (219,290)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (100,559)SoB LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (138,888)SR5 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (64,280)SGS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (35,164)TRP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (67,784)Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (40,976)321 Sieve Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (506,814)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (30,033)PPS Sieve Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (825,895)AP 26/27 Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (141,505)GFN Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (859,368)PSA Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (373,034)
Message 139827 - Posted: 23 Apr 2020 | 13:05:15 UTC
Last modified: 23 Apr 2020 | 13:28:18 UTC

Well, I have a very immature idea on the existence of PRPNet ad the future of new projects.
These days PRPNet is getting very little love because they require an external terminal, and projects like FPS and PRS are progressing slowly. I think last year someone mentioned that we were double-checking another person's ranges on FPS, and I suppose we'd all like to see a new FPS or PRS prime found by PrimeGrid, right?
Edit:http://www.primegrid.com/forum_thread.php?id=8843 This stated that the prime found by user "suse" in 2013 was already found 2 years earlier in 2011.
In that context, I suggest moving these PRPNet projects to stream's private server, though the GFN description is a bit off-par. This would benefit both users and the project because it will quickly advance the leading edge for PRS and FPS, and of course 27 and 121. Users on BOINC can get credit easier without having to modify a new application pref in a new executable.
Of course there are some roadblockers:
How will the original PRPNet credit be distributed to users on stream's server? This will remain a problem unless there's an automated script, because it's already quite hard to keep track of credit and update them manually.
Second is how removing PRPNet (if that's even possible) will affect PG's servers. Does it serve any internal importance?
Third is that the sieve files would be used up quickly, as Mike stated in the thread linked above.
But all the above is in the condition that PG has completed its current major goals, because this will be a great change, whether these projects are moved to PG or stream's server. The above was my two cents on PRPNet's future, I think the pros outweigh the cons in this situation, but any admins or users are welcome to correct my ideas! :)
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Found 3 primes in the 2020 Tour de Primes321 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,063,954)Cullen LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,328,304)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,170,793)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,319,313)PPS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (14,623,895)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,012,651)SoB LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,064,898)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,085,475)SGS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,320,684)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,740,707)Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,492,539)321 Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,440,175)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,911,344)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,077,092)PPS Sieve Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (50,200,870)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,034,014)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,070,774)AP 26/27 Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,442,696)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (33,288,606)PSA Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (52,866,806)
Message 139832 - Posted: 23 Apr 2020 | 16:09:28 UTC

My opinion is that they should be folded into PrimeGrid proper.
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Discovered 1 mega primeFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de Primes321 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,011,570)Cullen LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,009,374)ESP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,009,221)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,012,217)PPS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,055,307)PSP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,044,081)SoB LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,064,750)SR5 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,002,051)SGS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,001,215)TRP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,002,411)Woodall LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,013,921)321 Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,004,228)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,047,667)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,866,490)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,043,271)TRP Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,015,177)AP 26/27 Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,045,194)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (53,545,357)PSA Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (200,301,443)
Message 139834 - Posted: 23 Apr 2020 | 16:37:08 UTC

PrpNet is a testing area for projects which does have (yet) significant attention or of lesser mathematical importance. It's not expected to have high participation for them. (btw a fact that you're not familiar with console and command line does not mean that everybody here is). Eventually, these projects may receive more attention, become Boinc-ready and will be adopted by PrimeGrid. It happened with SR5. Or they may be shut down, like we did with wwww project due to software problems.

My GFN server will be not related to this in any way. It has it's own purpose - a place for relatively small user-suggested projects. LLR2 testing using residues from 27 and 121 was just a my arbitrary choice; I could use any PPS/PPSE data from period of adaptive replication.

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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (100,228)Cullen LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (36,962)ESP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (36,309)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (22,645)PPS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (219,290)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (100,559)SoB LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (138,888)SR5 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (64,280)SGS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (35,164)TRP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (67,784)Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (40,976)321 Sieve Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (506,814)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (30,033)PPS Sieve Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (825,895)AP 26/27 Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (141,505)GFN Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (859,368)PSA Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (373,034)
Message 139849 - Posted: 24 Apr 2020 | 7:22:48 UTC - in response to Message 139834.

PrpNet is a testing area for projects which does have (yet) significant attention or of lesser mathematical importance. It's not expected to have high participation for them.

Eventually, these projects may receive more attention, become Boinc-ready and will be adopted by PrimeGrid. It happened with SR5. Or they may be shut down, like we did with wwww project due to software problems.

Okay, so is it correct to say that they will never be ported to BOINC?
SR5 was a conjecture. The 27121 projects are like 321, except with (not so) random k values. 121 has pushed past DIV's maximum range, and 27 is going to do so in a few years. WW has been planned to re-enter, this time as a BOINC project, if I recall clearly. FPS and PRS are the only ones possible to ever be ported.
(btw a fact that you're not familiar with console and command line does not mean that everybody here is).

FYI, I started learning console because I was doing PRPNet and MSRs last year.


My GFN server will be not related to this in any way. It has it's own purpose - a place for relatively small user-suggested projects. LLR2 testing using residues from 27 and 121 was just a my arbitrary choice; I could use any PPS/PPSE data from period of adaptive replication.

Ah, okay,
So is it right to emphasize user-suggested for a description of your server?
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