Upcoming a long challenge on SOB. Help with the double check and maybe up a badge or two.

So anyone willing to dedicate several days to this and to the team is most welcome.

Remember to multi-thread if possible.

Cheers

Yep I'm in. Works well with the interplay of other goals.

Best of luck to all of those participating as well to the team overall.

Hopefully this will be the last challenge for which I will be able AWOL I expect to be "Michael-proof" around Jan 23rd with GCW Sieve and where the 30-day notice if and when it comes thereafter will be more than sufficient to meet the balance of the requirements for the Double Bronze at 100M.

All-In! Cool weather should dominate here for the duration of the challenge.
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Proud member of Team Aggie the Pew

"Wir müssen wissen. Wir werden wissen."
"We must know, we shall know."
- David Hilbert, 1930

I'm in, but just a wee bit nervous that I'll have to kick things off remotely due to being out of town for the next 7 days, so it will likely be a rolling start - I'll maybe switch to some shorter tasks a day or so before it starts...

"Michael-proof"

Is that a new rating for alcohol content? Is it more or less than 100-proof?

"Michael-proof"

Is that a new rating for alcohol content? Is it more or less than 100-proof?

By my calculation, 50 non-challenge days takes you to mid April. The GCW sieve isn't going to end before than. So have fun in all the challenges, and don't worry at all about the GCW sieve badge. You've got more than enough time to do both.

@RR: Do we have another private duel? :-P

@RR: Do we have another private duel? :-P

Private? Heck no this will be most public in form and fashion should you choose to accept :)

Just so you know any additional help in any of the challenges is ALWAYS welcome.

Also, even before I read your post I was looking at your current rigs. I'm somewhat concerned because the majority of mine are older and one of them is just temp and will maybe be used for 1 unit. However, that all aside, I hereby throw the guantlet down!

Think I'll set my morning alarm a bit earlier so I can manually press buttons.

Think I'll set my morning alarm a bit earlier so I can manually press buttons.

Think I'll set my morning alarm a bit earlier so I can manually press buttons.

I have a similar problem since the start time is 07:43 UT+2 for me. Being a night person, this is a problem. However, given the duel with RR, I am sure my smart phone will help out in this regard.

Also, for those you use it, make sure to double check your app_config file.

Been reading some of the stories dealing with SOB tasks. Gotta say I am a tad concerned with my systems. We will see.

... the only ones that might have trouble are the dual core Pentium and the Core2Duo. The C2D can probably handle the 2560K FFT.

My concerns deal more with the actual hardware. Will my memory stand up? I already have a system on the fence. Even my temp system fails randomly for no reason. It just freezes for no reason. I have reviewed my config files, read in the config files and all that.

During the gfn21 a couple of my systems were all over the place. Pretty sure it's some limiting factor but as they are only borrowed I can't really do much to them.

So, my hope and goal is to make sure AA is given the royal treatment :)

I am however all in and invite any and all who wish to join as well.

Go ATP!

Edit: lol just read Mikes comment, that old system probably won't be involved.

Edit: best guess on first task returned, 1 day or slightly longer?

EDIT: That was really an honest guess. I looked in the database AFTER posting that guess. The shortest elapsed time for a validated SoB in the last 30 days is 9.8 hours.

EDIT 2: That's a Core(TM) i9-7980XE

Thanks Mike! Those are some quick systems.

T - 12 hrs. :-)

Here we go .... this should be a lot of fun!

The main page is https://statsgr.id/ with a link to Eudy's overall stats, and a link to my page for each of the challenges in my DB. The winter solstice one was/is mostly for testing, with the only data points being from after the challenge was already over. The challenge page shows top 10 users & teams, with links to the full list of both.
Usernames & Team names are hyperlinked to a page with a graph of their score at each datapoint I have for them.

Woke up normal time after dreaming about an Italian shopping centre with no lights on so we'll see what point we stop at in the 8 millions. Celeron estim 27 days & MT, so that ain't happening.

Golfer: will keep on an eye on your site, looks like a fun tracker.

My systems seem to be looking at about 35 hrs (i7 6700k) to 10.7 days (Dell Core2Duo laptop at 2.67 GHz) per unit.

The estimate for my i7 6700k seems a little high but I must wait for the i7 7700k Kaby Lake to kick into action in less than 24 hrs to see how it performs. The former has the GPU doing Collatz (with absolutely trivial CPU contribution at under 1 sec per unit) whereas the latter has no GPU installed.

My 6700k with dual channel, dual rank 3200 ram was estimating 21h. 35h ball park could be expected if you're running basic speed 2133 ram assuming it was purely ram limited.

Wow! mfl0p already on the board at just over 7 hours! Very impressive!

With the best intentions of staying up late to start, this old man was in bed and fast asleep by 8:30 last night. Any way got 8 systems running now. A tad late but hopefully enough to keep up with AA.

@Golfer - wonderful idea! Looks like it's working and it's nice to see AtP on the board. Are you going to allow us to segment by team and show all users for just that team by chance?

@mfl0p - unbelievable !

Just a reminder, CNT has some folks who are caching tasks to turn in at the last moment so lets not let our guard down.

Go AtP !

Wow! mfl0p already on the board at just over 7 hours! Very impressive!

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The main page is https://statsgr.id/
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Golfer, why is 288larson a swoopy curve & other are just a solid bar (granted we don't have much of a database yet)?

Some more data ...

i7 6700k (4.0 GHz, 2x4Gb @ 2133 MHz) -> 38.8 hrs (-t4)
i7 7700k (4.2 Ghz, 2x4Gb @ 2133 MHz) -> in action tomorrow
i3 6300 (3.8 Ghz, 2x4Gb @ 2133 MHz) -> 46.9 hrs (-t2)
i3 6100 (3.7 GHz, 2x4Gb @ 2133 MHz) -> 45.3 hrs (-t2)

C2D P9600 (2.66 GHz, 2x2Gb @ 400 MHz) -> 422.50 hrs (-t2)

The laptop with the C2D processor will not finish in time but I will wait a further 12 hrs so as to perhaps acquire a more credible estimate. If nothing changes, I will kill the unit and revert back to GCW Sieve for this system.

My pending credit for GCW Sieve went from 65k to over 125k in a matter of hours and as we approached the start of the challenge. It is now back to 71k. Either someone dumped a serious amount of work or, most probably, people have backed off with SoB (due to the lengthy run times) and reverted back to their previous work.

i7 7700k (4.2 Ghz, 2x4Gb @ 2133 MHz) -> in action tomorrow

And we have another rat on board. Congrats SkyHighWeFly

Freezing of SG is kicking it.

Got 5675C

The visual interplay between the top 2 teams is already starting to plait itself in knots.

After a day and a tad more we have 6 ratties on board. AtP is currently in 5th. This is a long haul challenge :)


Rank Name Score
12 mackerel 279,964.25
17 mfl0p 221,534.56
25 SkyHighWeFly 162,596.63
34 Scott Brown 104,904.41
38 Michael Goetz 104,591.47
66 ILW8 52,292.79

Go AtP!

I'm also onboard.
But as I'm seasick, I won't get out of my cabin for a few more hours :)
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"Accidit in puncto, quod non contingit in anno."
Something that does not occur in a year may, perchance, happen in a moment.

I will be dumping FOUR units over the next little while starting with the first one in about 3.75 hrs.

@Eudy - get better soon or get off the ship :) (but NOT the team)

@AA - you have me nervous now..

@AA - you have me nervous now..

@AA - well at least I drew first blood :)

@AA - well at least I drew first blood :)

What has me puzzled is my i7 7700K ... it will require around 44 hrs to complete the current task. I realize that FFT sizes do vary from task to task but my i3 SkyLakes with half the physical cores (and GPU running!) need the same time as the quad core Kaby Lake (with no GPU).

I'd guess it could be a combo of FFT size and ram bandwidth limiting. i3 are practically unlimited in that sense, although I'd still expect a quad core to be somewhat faster. Don't know what the delta in WU times are between the two FFT sizes but it might account for it.

@AA - well at least I drew first blood :)

@AA - well at least I drew first blood :)

You can add one more rat on the board. :-)

@Eudy - first thanks for posting the stats. 2nd, there is something wrong with the stats. No way AA is ahead of me.

@Eudy - first thanks for posting the stats. 2nd, there is something wrong with the stats. No way AA is ahead of me.

@Eudy - first thanks for posting the stats. 2nd, there is something wrong with the stats. No way AA is ahead of me.

We have one glaring omission. Hopefully all is well with Zimmer!

@AA - well at least I drew first blood :)

You can add one more rat on the board. :-)

Current status (11 Atp members):

Hopefully i'll be there soon too..

I feel somewhat swamped against all this more modern hardware.

I'm in, by the way. 58% through what must be a big WU. I started late, though.

I feel somewhat swamped against all this more modern hardware.

Ah, don't feel bad. Unless you plan on upgrading it's all good :)

@AA - well at least I drew first blood :)

I will be saying hello in 39 minutes.

What has me puzzled is my i7 7700K ... it will require around 44 hrs to complete the current task. I realize that FFT sizes do vary from task to task but my i3 SkyLakes with half the physical cores (and GPU running!) need the same time as the quad core Kaby Lake (with no GPU).

Does not compute!

I agree. That's not expected. While I don't have a 7700K, I do have a Xeon which is almost the identical CPU. The 7700K is a little bit faster.

I did benchmarks before the challenge, and the run times for the 2560K tasks should be 26 hours and for the 2880K tasks it should be 30 hours. The tasks have grown a little bit, but your 7700K should also be outperforming my Xeon. 26 and 30 hours should be in the right ballpark.

40 hours is 10 hours too long. You're correct to be thinking something's not right.

This is, of course, running -t4.

With CPUID, I see the frequency toggling back and forth between 798 and 4200 MHz.

Edit: I checked my two i3 Skylakes using CPU-Z and they are steady at 3.7 and 3.8 GHz respectively whereas the i7 Kaby Lake is throttling between 798 and 4200 MHz. I recall the BIOS having a throttle option and I am fairly certain it has not been deactivated. Time to get into the BIOS for its deactivation.[/b]

Try hwinfo64. In particular, you can see if it is current, power or thermal limiting at all.

A few weeks after I joined PG , in 2017, I got scared because my CPU would easily get to 95 degrees Celsius when crunching.
It's a Skylake i7-6700 @ 3.4GHz.

The standard CPU fan, just blowing air on the chip, cannot handle the necessary heat dissipation when the work is steady 98-100%, even if just for some minutes.
I then bought an H60 Corsair water cooler.
The difference is huge.
For example, I'm now crunching SOB, 4 threads, and the cores stay around 66-68 C.
Literally, cool !
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"Accidit in puncto, quod non contingit in anno."
Something that does not occur in a year may, perchance, happen in a moment.

Maybe it is just me but I'm not sure I want to disable a thermal throttle, but improve cooling or lower settings so it doesn't reach that state in first place.