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Warren B. Rogers
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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (274,850)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (437,949)ESP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (67,766)PPS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (30,966)PSP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (718,428)SoB LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,564,802)SR5 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (33,475)SGS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (14,591)TRP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (79,485)Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (814,922)PPS Sieve Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,415,658)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (35,643,928)
Message 7514 - Posted: 7 Nov 2007 | 18:40:23 UTC
Last modified: 7 Nov 2007 | 18:42:09 UTC

Hello all I just recently started crunching for PrimeGrid. I got through 7 WUs with no problem and got credit for all of them but I haven't gotten any more since. I'm not getting any messages stating there is no work from the project and I have restart my BOINC client. I also have selected all programs to run in the preferences. It's been about two days since I've received anything. Can you help me out.

Thank you in advance,

Warren Rogers

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PPS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (23,379)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (14,199)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (17,655)
Message 7515 - Posted: 7 Nov 2007 | 18:55:15 UTC

I see that you are attached to multiple projects. Maybe your client is busy with workunit from other projects and does not request any new work? If it request work from other projects it could be that it has recently done more for primgrid that it should do based on your ressource-share. If this is the case then the client won't request more work from primegrid until he has done more work for other projects in order to balance out your ressource share.
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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (274,850)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (437,949)ESP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (67,766)PPS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (30,966)PSP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (718,428)SoB LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,564,802)SR5 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (33,475)SGS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (14,591)TRP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (79,485)Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (814,922)PPS Sieve Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,415,658)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (35,643,928)
Message 7550 - Posted: 12 Nov 2007 | 5:50:23 UTC - in response to Message 7515.

I see that you are attached to multiple projects. Maybe your client is busy with workunit from other projects and does not request any new work? If it request work from other projects it could be that it has recently done more for primgrid that it should do based on your ressource-share. If this is the case then the client won't request more work from primegrid until he has done more work for other projects in order to balance out your ressource share.



Thank you for your help it was about 4 days before I received new work and it does seem that it was due to the resource-share. I have it set to be even throughout all my projects and I had completed almost 7 in 2 days so BOINC was getting caught up with the other projects. Again thank you for your help.

Warren Rogers

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Discovered the World's First base 13 Generalized Woodall prime!!!Eliminated 22 conjecture "k"s2009 Tour de Primes highest prime count2009 Tour de Primes most Mountain Stage primes2010 Tour de Primes highest prime count2010 Tour de Primes highest prime score321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,097,586)Cullen LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,101,661)PPS LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (80,169,933)PSP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (18,921,475)SoB LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (55,453)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,407,637)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,595,742)TPS LLR (retired) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (360,998)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,800,792)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,885,194)321 Sieve Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,345,944)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (27,566,122)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (220,787,724)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,694,194)TRP Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,986,371)AP 26/27 Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,780,026)GFN Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (18,585,003)PSA Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (287,482,568)
Message 7738 - Posted: 25 Nov 2007 | 14:35:27 UTC

2007-11-25 15:31:27|PrimeGrid|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
2007-11-25 15:31:27|PrimeGrid|Message from server: No work sent
2007-11-25 15:31:27|PrimeGrid|Message from server: (There was work but not for the applications you have allowed. Please check your settings on the website.)
2007-11-25 15:31:27|PrimeGrid|Message from server: (won't finish in time) Computer on 98.2% of time, BOINC on 100.0% of that
2007-11-25 15:32:28|PrimeGrid|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 31578 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
2007-11-25 15:32:38|PrimeGrid|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
2007-11-25 15:32:38|PrimeGrid|Message from server: No work sent
2007-11-25 15:32:38|PrimeGrid|Message from server: (There was work but not for the applications you have allowed. Please check your settings on the website.)
2007-11-25 15:32:38|PrimeGrid|Message from server: (won't finish in time) Computer on 98.2% of time, BOINC on 100.0% of that


Runing gcwsieve And running c2d 2.1Ghz Have you changed range?

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Discovered 1 Wall-Sun-Sun prime321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (104,475)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (291,372)ESP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (18,156)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (15,259)PPS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (113,978)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (116,517)SoB LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (282,655)SR5 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (14,071)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (100,082)TPS LLR (retired) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (111,607)TRP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (18,232,983)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (101,463)321 Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (201,501)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (214,653)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (14,200)PPS Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (491,193)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (200,232)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,453,872)AP 26/27 Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (473,058)GFN Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (184,089)PSA Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (97,541)
Message 7740 - Posted: 25 Nov 2007 | 15:06:16 UTC - in response to Message 7738.

I accidentally sent out a range of workunits with deadlines of 1 hour. They should filter pretty fast, I hope :)
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Discovered the World's First base 13 Generalized Woodall prime!!!Eliminated 22 conjecture "k"s2009 Tour de Primes highest prime count2009 Tour de Primes most Mountain Stage primes2010 Tour de Primes highest prime count2010 Tour de Primes highest prime score321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,097,586)Cullen LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,101,661)PPS LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (80,169,933)PSP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (18,921,475)SoB LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (55,453)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,407,637)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,595,742)TPS LLR (retired) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (360,998)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,800,792)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,885,194)321 Sieve Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,345,944)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (27,566,122)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (220,787,724)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,694,194)TRP Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,986,371)AP 26/27 Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,780,026)GFN Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (18,585,003)PSA Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (287,482,568)
Message 7741 - Posted: 25 Nov 2007 | 15:13:01 UTC - in response to Message 7740.

I accidentally sent out a range of workunits with deadlines of 1 hour. They should filter pretty fast, I hope :)




Ok Fine.

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PPS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (165,777)SGS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (21,249)TPS LLR (retired) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (59,179)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,016,748)PPS Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (257,198)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (632,188)AP 26/27 Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (23,829)
Message 7743 - Posted: 25 Nov 2007 | 16:21:02 UTC - in response to Message 7740.
Last modified: 25 Nov 2007 | 16:22:56 UTC

I accidentally sent out a range of workunits with deadlines of 1 hour. They should filter pretty fast, I hope :)


The deadline has been chanched now. - To 3 hours!!!

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321 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (12,985)Cullen LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (41,053)PPS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (39,320)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (308,529)SoB LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,386,264)TPS LLR (retired) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,111,923)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (380,606)PPS Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,889,281)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,525,526)GFN Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,889,652)PSA Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (261,556)
Message 7745 - Posted: 25 Nov 2007 | 18:36:53 UTC - in response to Message 7740.

I accidentally sent out a range of workunits with deadlines of 1 hour. They should filter pretty fast, I hope :)



I was wondering why I had a large batch that were all getting processed with high priority. My average deadline was December 1 but then all the sudden I had a batch that had due dates of November 25.

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Discovered 1 Wall-Sun-Sun prime321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (104,475)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (291,372)ESP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (18,156)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (15,259)PPS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (113,978)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (116,517)SoB LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (282,655)SR5 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (14,071)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (100,082)TPS LLR (retired) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (111,607)TRP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (18,232,983)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (101,463)321 Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (201,501)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (214,653)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (14,200)PPS Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (491,193)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (200,232)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,453,872)AP 26/27 Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (473,058)GFN Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (184,089)PSA Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (97,541)
Message 7746 - Posted: 25 Nov 2007 | 19:16:47 UTC

15% of the range is completed already. The bad range is a total of 30000 WUs.
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321 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (12,985)Cullen LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (41,053)PPS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (39,320)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (308,529)SoB LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,386,264)TPS LLR (retired) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,111,923)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (380,606)PPS Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,889,281)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,525,526)GFN Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,889,652)PSA Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (261,556)
Message 7747 - Posted: 25 Nov 2007 | 23:08:58 UTC - in response to Message 7746.

15% of the range is completed already. The bad range is a total of 30000 WUs.


It doesn't bother me any as my machines get through them pretty fast.

Just maybe let the db get past its normal 7 day window for a bit so that those people that have slow machines don't get stuck with past deadline, no credit WU's.

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321 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (10,279)Cullen LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (11,460)PPS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (14,949)PSP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (11,016)SoB LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (16,635)SGS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (11,081)TRP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (10,140)Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (10,331)321 Sieve Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (20,883)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (21,464)PPS Sieve Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (57,241)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (20,499)TRP Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (20,039)PSA Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,160,517)
Message 7749 - Posted: 26 Nov 2007 | 3:12:24 UTC - in response to Message 7746.

15% of the range is completed already. The bad range is a total of 30000 WUs.

What subproject are these WU's for?
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Message 7751 - Posted: 26 Nov 2007 | 8:18:20 UTC - in response to Message 7749.

What subproject are these WU's for?

GCWsieve. ~40% of WUs done.
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321 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (10,279)Cullen LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (11,460)PPS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (14,949)PSP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (11,016)SoB LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (16,635)SGS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (11,081)TRP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (10,140)Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (10,331)321 Sieve Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (20,883)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (21,464)PPS Sieve Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (57,241)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (20,499)TRP Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (20,039)PSA Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,160,517)
Message 7755 - Posted: 26 Nov 2007 | 17:08:12 UTC - in response to Message 7751.
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What subproject are these WU's for?

GCWsieve. ~40% of WUs done.

Ah, I see now. At first I thought they might have been 321 workunits, since I had just gotten one with a very short deadline, but then I remembered your earlier post elsewhere saying that the early 321 workunits would all have very short deadlines intentionally (so they couldn't have been the ones affected by this). :-)

On a slightly unrelated note, your mention of the GCWsieve workunits prompted a question: how far do we have yet to sieve the Cullen 5M-10M range until it's caught up with Woodall? jmblazek said in this post a while back that the paln was to catch the Cullen 5M-10M up to the Woodall 5M-10M range, then continue on with combined sieving.
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Message 7756 - Posted: 26 Nov 2007 | 17:17:43 UTC - in response to Message 7740.

I accidentally sent out a range of workunits with deadlines of 1 hour. They should filter pretty fast, I hope :)

Do these WUs require gcwsieve 1.06? If yes, do you have any idea, why this host got one of them with the old version of the application and of course failed pretty bad with it?
I know that this host only has the old version of the gcwsieve application because it is running as anonymous platform and I forgot to upgrade the application. But shouldn't this host just get none of these new WUs because it does not have the correct version of the application?
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Message 7757 - Posted: 26 Nov 2007 | 17:52:13 UTC
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how far do we have yet to sieve the Cullen 5M-10M range until it's caught up with Woodall? jmblazek said in this post a while back that the paln was to catch the Cullen 5M-10M up to the Woodall 5M-10M range, then continue on with combined sieving.

It's caught up, and we're doing combined sieving with 1.06 - as previous versions (except 1.05 Windows 64bit) did not have the required feature built in.

I know that this host only has the old version of the gcwsieve application because it is running as anonymous platform and I forgot to upgrade the application. But shouldn't this host just get none of these new WUs because it does not have the correct version of the application?

If you run under anonymous platform, the server assumes you know what you're doing :)
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PPS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (23,379)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (14,199)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (17,655)
Message 7758 - Posted: 26 Nov 2007 | 18:31:36 UTC - in response to Message 7757.


If you run under anonymous platform, the server assumes you know what you're doing :)

That means it ignores the version-tag specified in the app_info.xml? Seems to be useless...
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321 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (10,279)Cullen LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (11,460)PPS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (14,949)PSP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (11,016)SoB LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (16,635)SGS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (11,081)TRP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (10,140)Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (10,331)321 Sieve Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (20,883)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (21,464)PPS Sieve Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (57,241)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (20,499)TRP Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (20,039)PSA Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,160,517)
Message 7759 - Posted: 26 Nov 2007 | 18:46:39 UTC - in response to Message 7757.

how far do we have yet to sieve the Cullen 5M-10M range until it's caught up with Woodall? jmblazek said in this post a while back that the paln was to catch the Cullen 5M-10M up to the Woodall 5M-10M range, then continue on with combined sieving.

It's caught up, and we're doing combined sieving with 1.06 - as previous versions (except 1.05 Windows 64bit) did not have the required feature built in.

Wouldn't you have to wait for all the factors to be returned for the lower Cullen ranges before combining the sieve files, though? Or will a new sieve file be released when more factors come in?
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Message 7762 - Posted: 26 Nov 2007 | 20:25:07 UTC - in response to Message 7759.

Wouldn't you have to wait for all the factors to be returned for the lower Cullen ranges before combining the sieve files, though? Or will a new sieve file be released when more factors come in?

It's a small amount of factors, and we could just wait forever. It's not like we wait for all previous results being returned before sending new when going in range - and actually, Cullens are being processed in range.
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Message 7764 - Posted: 26 Nov 2007 | 23:02:09 UTC - in response to Message 7762.
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Wouldn't you have to wait for all the factors to be returned for the lower Cullen ranges before combining the sieve files, though? Or will a new sieve file be released when more factors come in?

It's a small amount of factors, and we could just wait forever. It's not like we wait for all previous results being returned before sending new when going in range - and actually, Cullens are being processed in range.

I know this probably should be obvious to me, but what do you mean by "in range"? Are you talking about p ranges? n ranges?
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Message 7768 - Posted: 27 Nov 2007 | 10:05:46 UTC - in response to Message 7764.

I know this probably should be obvious to me, but what do you mean by "in range"? Are you talking about p ranges? n ranges?

The fact my native language is not English does not help ;) I had in mind "sequentially".
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Message 7770 - Posted: 27 Nov 2007 | 18:20:19 UTC - in response to Message 7768.

I know this probably should be obvious to me, but what do you mean by "in range"? Are you talking about p ranges? n ranges?

The fact my native language is not English does not help ;) I had in mind "sequentially".

I get it now. No problem. :-)
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Message 7878 - Posted: 12 Dec 2007 | 13:23:08 UTC

I'm unable to get new work...my computer requests it, the main page shows plenty of WUs available.

Not a debt issue. Any suggestions?

12/12/2007 7:16:59 AM|PrimeGrid|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 259201 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
12/12/2007 7:17:04 AM|PrimeGrid|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks

This is the most recent request. More often it will request for example 12000 seconds of work and download only 1800 seconds of work.

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321 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (30,386)Cullen LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (47,849)ESP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (21,583)PPS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,343,978)PSP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (12,472)SoB LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (15,884)SGS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (926,215)TPS LLR (retired) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (763,181)TRP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (74,948)Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (36,063)321 Sieve Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (84,038)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (62,153)PPS Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (174,709)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (968,173)
Message 7879 - Posted: 12 Dec 2007 | 14:12:11 UTC

Same problem here with all my hosts, no downloads but uploads are working fine:

Computer Project Date ID Message
Rack-P4 PrimeGrid 12/12/2007 9:01:05 AM 17019 Reason: To fetch work
Rack-P4 PrimeGrid 12/12/2007 9:01:05 AM 17020 Requesting 46618 seconds of new work
Rack-P4 PrimeGrid 12/12/2007 9:01:15 AM 17021 Scheduler request to http://www.primegrid.com/cgi/cgi succeeded
Rack-P4 PrimeGrid 12/12/2007 9:01:15 AM 17022 No work from project
Rack-P4 PrimeGrid 12/12/2007 9:02:15 AM 17023 Sending scheduler request to http://www.primegrid.com/cgi/cgi
Rack-P4 PrimeGrid 12/12/2007 9:02:15 AM 17024 Reason: To fetch work
Rack-P4 PrimeGrid 12/12/2007 9:02:15 AM 17025 Requesting 46618 seconds of new work
Rack-P4 PrimeGrid 12/12/2007 9:02:40 AM 17026 Scheduler request to http://www.primegrid.com/cgi/cgi succeeded
Rack-P4 PrimeGrid 12/12/2007 9:02:40 AM 17027 No work from project

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Message 7881 - Posted: 12 Dec 2007 | 15:13:31 UTC

Same here...
12.12.2007 14:26:57|PrimeGrid|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 88128 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
12.12.2007 14:27:02|PrimeGrid|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks

Even with all subprojects enabled.
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Message 7883 - Posted: 12 Dec 2007 | 15:22:44 UTC

The Server Load run chart also is showing close to zero load the last 2.5 hours instead of its average load of ~2.5. There is indeed some kind of server side issue going on. I thought it might be only TPS but glad you pointed out the problem is affecting all sub projects Pschoefer.

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Message 7886 - Posted: 12 Dec 2007 | 17:16:23 UTC

Database issue, should be OK now.
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Message 7887 - Posted: 12 Dec 2007 | 17:23:28 UTC - in response to Message 7886.

Database issue, should be OK now.

Database problems and crashes seem to be quite common for boinc projects. Are there any specific reasons for this? Or are all of them just "human errors"?
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Message 7888 - Posted: 12 Dec 2007 | 17:27:16 UTC

Well, for some reason mysql fails to handle database tables with more than 1300000 entries (this was true for the old server, and seems to be true for the new one) - and I tried to save myself some work and inserted a lot of sieve work into the database, which crossed that unstable boundary, and that's the result :) So it's both human error and software issues...
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Message 7889 - Posted: 12 Dec 2007 | 18:43:35 UTC

Oh well...
Unfortunately its not possible to use another DBMS instead of MySQL. I would guess that other database server, for example PostgreSQL, could perform better than MySQL, especially with big amounts of data. But I guess no one would like to try it because the boinc server is too much specialising in MySQL.
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Message 7891 - Posted: 12 Dec 2007 | 20:24:03 UTC - in response to Message 7889.

Oh well...
Unfortunately its not possible to use another DBMS instead of MySQL. I would guess that other database server, for example PostgreSQL, could perform better than MySQL, especially with big amounts of data. But I guess no one would like to try it because the boinc server is too much specialising in MySQL.


I agree with you. BOINC (server side) should have the ability to use more generic SQL calls so that a person could use a different DBMS without having to rewrite everything.

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Message 7892 - Posted: 12 Dec 2007 | 20:43:08 UTC

It's being worked on, PHP code has almost been converted to use abstraction layer for all db calls.

The scheduler code is a bit different beast: none of the current projects want to be lab rats for testing the new code, and there's also the fact that BOINC's MySQL queries have been optimized specifically for it's query parser, while after porting the server to another DBMS would mean that it needs to be optimized from scratch. It's hard work, and nearly impossible to find the problems without running a relatively large project, and large projects also need more stability, which couldn't be achieved while testing different optimization strategies.

Basically, we're stuck with MySQL :) On the other hand, it's not a bad DBMS, and is only improving over time.
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Message 7900 - Posted: 13 Dec 2007 | 13:25:02 UTC - in response to Message 7892.

It's being worked on, PHP code has almost been converted to use abstraction layer for all db calls.

The scheduler code is a bit different beast: none of the current projects want to be lab rats for testing the new code, and there's also the fact that BOINC's MySQL queries have been optimized specifically for it's query parser, while after porting the server to another DBMS would mean that it needs to be optimized from scratch. It's hard work, and nearly impossible to find the problems without running a relatively large project, and large projects also need more stability, which couldn't be achieved while testing different optimization strategies.

Basically, we're stuck with MySQL :) On the other hand, it's not a bad DBMS, and is only improving over time.


Not working right after 1.3M rows in a database isn't what I'd call "stable"... ;)

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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (166,998)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (153,073)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,370,888)PPS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (80,762)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (413,683)SoB LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (42,528)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (174,973)SGS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (72,047)TRP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (623,510)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (376,439)321 Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (497,398)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (141,564)PPS Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (404,392)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (515,665)TRP Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (470,499)AP 26/27 Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (126,997)GFN Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,067,815)PSA Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (333,670)
Message 7901 - Posted: 13 Dec 2007 | 14:22:07 UTC

I would think that it is more a combination of high access volume and the number of rows.

The main tables from PSP and SR5 project are all far bigger then 1.3M rows but the DB has two advantages. The first one is that there are small interface tables that handle the communication to the outside world. ( I think at primegrid the 1.3 M tables are already the small interfaces ;) )
For the second "advantage" there are not that many users so the simultanious hit rate is much lower.

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Discovered 1 Wall-Sun-Sun prime321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (104,475)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (291,372)ESP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (18,156)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (15,259)PPS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (113,978)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (116,517)SoB LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (282,655)SR5 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (14,071)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (100,082)TPS LLR (retired) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (111,607)TRP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (18,232,983)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (101,463)321 Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (201,501)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (214,653)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (14,200)PPS Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (491,193)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (200,232)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,453,872)AP 26/27 Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (473,058)GFN Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (184,089)PSA Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (97,541)
Message 7902 - Posted: 13 Dec 2007 | 15:36:24 UTC

Current result table status:
Rows 1,135,469
Row length ø 1,236
Row size ø 1,607 B

The table is 1.7GB, MyISAM with dynamic length rows (I had even bigger troubles with InnoDB).

The problem is that there's a lot of data that doesn't need to be accessed often (if ever), like stderr output. Work is underway to separate necessary data from additional information, but it will take some time, as BOINC people are committed to dozens of BOINC improvement (?) projects at a time.
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321 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (12,985)Cullen LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (41,053)PPS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (39,320)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (308,529)SoB LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,386,264)TPS LLR (retired) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,111,923)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (380,606)PPS Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,889,281)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,525,526)GFN Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,889,652)PSA Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (261,556)
Message 7912 - Posted: 14 Dec 2007 | 21:24:30 UTC - in response to Message 7902.


Work is underway to separate necessary data from additional information, but it will take some time, as BOINC people are committed to dozens of BOINC improvement (?) projects at a time.


Ah yes, like BOINC-wide teams that give out people's email addresses to everyone ;) I watch those discussions as well. It takes a while because BOINC tends to get caught up in pet projects that are poorly thought out and implemented without enough testing.

Just my two cents..

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Discovered the World's First base 13 Generalized Woodall prime!!!Eliminated 22 conjecture "k"s2009 Tour de Primes highest prime count2009 Tour de Primes most Mountain Stage primes2010 Tour de Primes highest prime count2010 Tour de Primes highest prime score321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,097,586)Cullen LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,101,661)PPS LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (80,169,933)PSP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (18,921,475)SoB LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (55,453)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,407,637)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,595,742)TPS LLR (retired) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (360,998)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,800,792)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,885,194)321 Sieve Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,345,944)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (27,566,122)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (220,787,724)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,694,194)TRP Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,986,371)AP 26/27 Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,780,026)GFN Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (18,585,003)PSA Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (287,482,568)
Message 8128 - Posted: 17 Jan 2008 | 10:40:06 UTC

I have problem getting Cullen LLR WU
2008-01-17 11:26:29|PrimeGrid|Message from server: No work sent
2008-01-17 11:26:29|PrimeGrid|Message from server: (There was work but not for the applications you have allowed. Please check your settings on the website.)

I have Cullen LLR!

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Message 8129 - Posted: 17 Jan 2008 | 11:22:49 UTC - in response to Message 8128.

Maybe a Linux host? There is no Cullen LLR available for Linux.
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Discovered the World's First base 13 Generalized Woodall prime!!!Eliminated 22 conjecture "k"s2009 Tour de Primes highest prime count2009 Tour de Primes most Mountain Stage primes2010 Tour de Primes highest prime count2010 Tour de Primes highest prime score321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,097,586)Cullen LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,101,661)PPS LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (80,169,933)PSP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (18,921,475)SoB LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (55,453)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,407,637)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,595,742)TPS LLR (retired) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (360,998)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,800,792)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,885,194)321 Sieve Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,345,944)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (27,566,122)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (220,787,724)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,694,194)TRP Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,986,371)AP 26/27 Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,780,026)GFN Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (18,585,003)PSA Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (287,482,568)
Message 8130 - Posted: 17 Jan 2008 | 11:41:54 UTC - in response to Message 8129.

Maybe a Linux host? There is no Cullen LLR available for Linux.

No WinXP 64 But I get WU now.

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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (177,327)PPS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (229,777)SGS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (10,769)TPS LLR (retired) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (130,458)TRP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (252,725)PPS Sieve Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,208,668)TRP Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (66,525)
Message 8194 - Posted: 31 Jan 2008 | 13:43:29 UTC

1/31/2008 5:38:51 AM|PrimeGrid|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
1/31/2008 5:39:51 AM|PrimeGrid|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 46035 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
1/31/2008 5:39:56 AM|PrimeGrid|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks
1/31/2008 5:40:56 AM|PrimeGrid|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work. Requesting 46036 seconds of work, reporting 0 completed tasks
1/31/2008 5:41:01 AM|PrimeGrid|Scheduler request succeeded: got 0 new tasks


Not getting any work from project. The main page says there is work. The only other project im running is RS and only because PG wont give me any work. = (

Client 54447 can fetch work but not 54446.
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PPS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (165,777)SGS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (21,249)TPS LLR (retired) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (59,179)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,016,748)PPS Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (257,198)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (632,188)AP 26/27 Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (23,829)
Message 8196 - Posted: 31 Jan 2008 | 14:09:51 UTC - in response to Message 8194.

Not getting any work from project. The main page says there is work. The only other project im running is RS and only because PG wont give me any work. = (

Client 54447 can fetch work but not 54446.


I'm not getting any work either for my 3 hosts, that are only duing work for PG. I can Upload and Report Wu's, but they only end up with Pending-status. I can't get any info on Wu's in my worklist for the 3 hosts or the Wu's that are Pending. I get "can't show ...". So there most be some issue at PG. Hopefully not a too serious one.

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Discovered the World's First base 13 Generalized Woodall prime!!!Eliminated 22 conjecture "k"s2009 Tour de Primes highest prime count2009 Tour de Primes most Mountain Stage primes2010 Tour de Primes highest prime count2010 Tour de Primes highest prime score321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,097,586)Cullen LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,101,661)PPS LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (80,169,933)PSP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (18,921,475)SoB LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (55,453)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,407,637)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,595,742)TPS LLR (retired) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (360,998)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,800,792)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,885,194)321 Sieve Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,345,944)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (27,566,122)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (220,787,724)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,694,194)TRP Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,986,371)AP 26/27 Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,780,026)GFN Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (18,585,003)PSA Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (287,482,568)
Message 8197 - Posted: 31 Jan 2008 | 14:13:00 UTC - in response to Message 8196.

Not getting any work from project. The main page says there is work. The only other project im running is RS and only because PG wont give me any work. = (

Client 54447 can fetch work but not 54446.


I'm not getting any work either for my 3 hosts, that are only duing work for PG. I can Upload and Report Wu's, but they only end up with Pending-status. I can't get any info on Wu's in my worklist for the 3 hosts or the Wu's that are Pending. I get "can't show ...". So there most be some issue at PG. Hopefully not a too serious one.


There is something wrong.

http://www.primegrid.com/server_status.php

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PPS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (165,777)SGS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (21,249)TPS LLR (retired) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (59,179)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,016,748)PPS Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (257,198)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (632,188)AP 26/27 Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (23,829)
Message 8198 - Posted: 31 Jan 2008 | 15:59:52 UTC - in response to Message 8197.

Not getting any work from project. The main page says there is work. The only other project im running is RS and only because PG wont give me any work. = (

Client 54447 can fetch work but not 54446.


I'm not getting any work either for my 3 hosts, that are only duing work for PG. I can Upload and Report Wu's, but they only end up with Pending-status. I can't get any info on Wu's in my worklist for the 3 hosts or the Wu's that are Pending. I get "can't show ...". So there most be some issue at PG. Hopefully not a too serious one.


There is something wrong.

http://www.primegrid.com/server_status.php

Lennart


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Thank you Lennart, for making the phonecall about the problem.
That is true dedication.

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