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Found 4 primes in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 2 primes in the 2019 Tour de Primes321 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,737,564)Cullen LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,939,643)ESP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,253,423)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,691,488)PPS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (19,786,444)PSP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,502,818)SoB LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (19,234,142)SR5 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,376,832)SGS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,037,163)TRP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (13,220,801)Woodall LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,770,021)321 Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (21,833,883)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (74,346)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,184,525)PPS Sieve Double Gold: Earned 500,000,000 credits (565,517,666)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (287,513)TRP Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,074,848)AP 26/27 Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (96,841,979)GFN Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (150,079,602)PSA Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (72,018,672)
Message 104768 - Posted: 8 Feb 2017 | 14:16:45 UTC

I've noticed some invalid results starting to come from my newest and fastest machine. 4 yesterday and 2 so far today. This bugger has an i7-7000 series CPU and two GTX1050s. any ideas what might be happening? I don't want this machine to get on the naughty list!

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Message 104769 - Posted: 8 Feb 2017 | 15:02:44 UTC - in response to Message 104768.

Is it overclocked? Check also your CPU temperatures.

If you're not far into them, you might want to abort the SoB units, and deselect them to prevent getting more. Stick to very short units until the stability is resolved so the loss is less painful when they go bad.

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The "Shut up already!" badge:  This loud mouth has mansplained on the forums over 10 thousand times!  Sheesh!!!Discovered the World's First GFN-19 prime!!!Discovered 1 mega primeFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de Primes321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,063,182)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,005,249)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,820,430)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,145,754)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,773,744)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,632,269)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (34,158,496)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,293,415)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,012,781)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,737,347)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,195,123)321 Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,046,112)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,170,256)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,059,304)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,110,788)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,090,096)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (64,595,124)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,135,447)
Message 104772 - Posted: 8 Feb 2017 | 17:30:45 UTC

I haven't heard of this problem with Kaby Lake CPUs, but with Sky Lakes there was a real problem with early BIOSes not being able to properly set up DDR4 memory running above stock speed. A BIOS update was required to fix this.

It might be worth checking to see if there's an updated BIOS for your motherboard.

It's a long shot. As I said, I haven't heard of any such problems with KL chips, and it's hard to imagine that a BIOS would be updated for KL but not to fix the memory problem.

Another possibility (besides what Mack said) would be to reseat and clean the memory contacts.

And, of course, reboot the computer. Cleaning the memory contacts will take care of that step too. :)

I'm not sure I'd go and abort anything yet. You've got thousands of valid tasks and only a few bad ones. It may have been something transient.


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Message 104773 - Posted: 8 Feb 2017 | 17:43:00 UTC

To add to Mr. Goetz' comments, I had a 6700k which was extrodinarily recalcitrant with memory errors. Thanks to some prodding from the furry one(s), I finally sat down and appear to have fixed it.

History-this machine was putting out sporadic errors on LLR tasks. A bios update (its an Asrock Z170 mitx/ac) last October reduced the errors to one or two per week. With TdP, I switched it to PPS-Mega, and it was NOT happy, it was spitting out error units half the time or so.

What I discovered was if I selected the XMP profile for the memory, and then went into the oc settings to peg the CPU at turbo, it was ignoring the XMP memory settings and setting CAS to 15 instead of 16, as specified by the XMP profile. Once I fixed those, it has been error/invalid task free since.

I would certainly make sure everything is configured as you expect, as sometimes "help" that h/w manufacturers give isn't really helpful.

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Message 104776 - Posted: 8 Feb 2017 | 19:18:53 UTC

Looking at the invalid task list, it includes PPSE and SGS. Those small tasks are unlikely to be impacted by bad ram so I'd look towards the CPU itself in the first instance.

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Message 104778 - Posted: 8 Feb 2017 | 20:58:48 UTC

Since Mackerel made me look, do you have HT on on your 4790k?

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Message 104783 - Posted: 9 Feb 2017 | 1:59:26 UTC - in response to Message 104778.

Thanks for all of the insight. this computer is not overclocked at all, I just finished a bunch of manual sieve tasks last night, and turned HT off this morning. I will re-seat RAM next time I'm in front of it just for kicks. I seriously doubt there are heat issues with the CPU, it has a giant noctua heatsink/fan on it. I'll try to have another talk with it in the morning, and check bios versions as well... when I set this up just a month ago, I installed the latest firmware - but you never know!

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Message 104786 - Posted: 9 Feb 2017 | 8:52:10 UTC - in response to Message 104783.

The big Noctuas are good, even their not so big ones are good, but still check temperatures in case something unexpected happened on installation. If you're not overclocking, temperature would be the thing I'd think of next.

While I still don't think it is likely to be the ram, what speed is it?

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Message 104788 - Posted: 9 Feb 2017 | 11:40:48 UTC - in response to Message 104786.

here's the memory that's in it:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01JQ4PJ8S/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

and for reference, this is the mobo:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157739


I ended up using this because some bozo who put the order in for my computer parts ordered the wrong stuff, and this one was in amazon's free next day delivery list :)

The computer is otherwise solid, no lockups or blue screens yet.

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Message 104796 - Posted: 9 Feb 2017 | 12:52:47 UTC - in response to Message 104788.

I've had mixed luck with high speed ram, and 3600 certainly is fast assuming it is set to run at that.

In a look at the computer results, there's been no more errors recently right? I'm wondering if there is some other influence hitting them.

Still, get some core temperatures if not already done so. I like hwinfo64 but other tools are available. I'd look at the cores individually and just note what the hottest one gets up to.

I note there's still a SoB unit running. I'd suggest when that is complete, stop BOINC for a bit and run latest Prime95 stress test for a few hours. If that comes up with an error, note what FFT size it was testing at the time.

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Message 104802 - Posted: 9 Feb 2017 | 14:47:51 UTC - in response to Message 104796.

I checked at some point yesterday and saw two inconclusive tasks done by that computer. overnight, this changed to one, and did not add any invalid ones, so I assume it was the wingman who had some bad mojo.

I took a close look at the machine this morning, re-seated memory, checked temps with the hwinfo tool (awesome program btw). I noticed the base clock was running at 101 MHz which seemed strange, so I looked at the mainboard clock / oc settings and indeed it was set to 101 MHz... seems that this value is not typically changed from the default, so I set it back to 100. not 100% sure how that got changed, but I'm blaming the cat. The multiplier is set to 45. I really have no clue if the memory clocks are set where they are supposed to be, I don't have a reference there. the core temps (before changing anything) were topping out with one core hitting 80C, the others in the mid-high 70s. this was with HT off, and running one SoB, three LLR, and two GFN-16 GPU tasks. I'll keep an eye out for more invalid tasks and see if that may have helped.

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Message 104803 - Posted: 9 Feb 2017 | 14:59:57 UTC - in response to Message 104802.

Hwinfo64 should give you your memory timings (Mackerel correct me if I'm wrong).

Patriot shows 17-19-19-39 as the spec timings for that memory.

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Message 104806 - Posted: 9 Feb 2017 | 15:53:51 UTC - in response to Message 104803.

If you see inconclusive, don't panic until you see invalid status. Even then don't panic, we will find and fix it!

On one slightly OC i7-6700k system I had temps go into 80C+ due to cooler fail, and when that happened, I got bad units produced. Which Noctua cooler is it? I'm also thinking, what is case airflow like, and what are typical room ambient temperatures? That there aren't more consistent problems may be related to environmental temperature changes also.

hwinfo64 should list the ram speed/timings in it somewhere.

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Message 104845 - Posted: 10 Feb 2017 | 14:07:30 UTC - in response to Message 104806.

here is a link to the cooler I'm using:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608040
I used some high quality thermal grease.
the case overall has lots of airflow. another noctua fan and the pwr supply fan are blowing air out the back. most of the front is perforated to allow airflow, and there are perforations in the lid above the gfx cards.

I double checked memory timing using the numbers supplied below and my system was not set properly... I adjusted in the bios setup and its showing the proper numbers now.

is 80C too hot for a single CPU Core? from what I have read elsewhere, the danger zone starts at 90C?




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Message 104846 - Posted: 10 Feb 2017 | 14:42:02 UTC - in response to Message 104845.

Temperature is only one factor, and has to be taken in consideration along with voltage and clock speed. Given the CPU is not overclocked I'd assume 80C is ok, but if overclocked that might not be the case any more.

What settings did you need to change for the ram?

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Message 104884 - Posted: 10 Feb 2017 | 22:26:25 UTC

I may be a bit conservative in this regard, but I really try to keep everything no hotter than the 60s (C). A couple of components (my hawaii-based AMD cards specifically) just can't seem to stay there, but they stay below 75C. Given that they are crunching at full load 24x7, I take the approach that less heat is generally better and will help them live longer.

As to the memory, I pulled the timings from here:

https://patriotmemory.com/product/viper-4-series-ddr4-16gb-2-x-8gb-3600mhz-kit/

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Message 104909 - Posted: 11 Feb 2017 | 14:44:28 UTC - in response to Message 104884.

for memory timing, all of the numbers were a bit lower than the ones Van sent a few posts back:

Patriot shows 17-19-19-39 as the spec timings for that memory.


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