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Message 95705 - Posted: 10 Jun 2016 | 16:27:09 UTC

Recently, Nvidia released driver 368.22 which fixes the serious error introduced with their 364.xx driver. Please upgrade to 368.22 or later, unless you are running Windows XP or Windows Vista.

If you are running the 364.xx or 365.xx drivers, it is imperative that you upgrade to 368.22 or later. The 364.xx and 365.xx drivers can produce incorrect calculation results.

However, if you are running Windows XP or Windows Vista, these versions of Windows are no longer supported by Nvidia's drivers as of 368.22. If you're running XP or Vista, you must revert to an earlier version of the driver (363.xx or earlier).

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Message 95714 - Posted: 10 Jun 2016 | 21:43:00 UTC

Michael,

Does this apply to Macs?


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Message 95715 - Posted: 10 Jun 2016 | 21:46:28 UTC - in response to Message 95714.
Last modified: 10 Jun 2016 | 21:48:27 UTC

Michael,

Does this apply to Macs?



Not being a Mac user, I'm not sure. I'm sure someone else has the answer...

EDIT: And by not being sure, I mean I'm not sure what drivers are available on the Mac. Regardless of platform, 364.xx and 365.xx shouldn't be used at PrimeGrid (and probably nowhere else, too).
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321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,616,603)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,024,841)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,343,146)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,217,520)PPS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (13,415,312)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,401,154)SoB LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,764,038)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,930,563)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,490,875)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,861,204)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,565,391)321 Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (25,484,655)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,143,197)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,383,951)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (344,679,289)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,418,569)TRP Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,105,236)AP 26/27 Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,854,358)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (34,860,143)
Message 95728 - Posted: 11 Jun 2016 | 12:30:59 UTC

And the newest 368.39 are also OK?
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Found 5 primes in the 2021 Tour de PrimesFound 5 mega primes in the 2021 Tour de PrimesThe "Shut up already!" badge:  This loud mouth has mansplained on the forums over 10 thousand times!  Sheesh!!!Discovered the World's First GFN-19 prime!!!Discovered 6 mega primesFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de Primes321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,822,730)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,624,591)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,021,269)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,145,754)PPS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (16,008,485)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,197,957)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (34,291,181)SR5 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,007,110)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,252,256)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,084,329)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,911,985)321 Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,061,196)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,170,256)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,059,304)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (22,885,121)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,118,303)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (76,733,355)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,445,029)
Message 95730 - Posted: 11 Jun 2016 | 13:13:19 UTC - in response to Message 95728.

And the newest 368.39 are also OK?


Presumably. I haven't heard anything about problems with any of the 368.xx drivers, other than no longer supporting XP and Vista. I'd be surprised if the same bug reappeared in a new driver, although there's always the possibility of a new bug. However, bugs as serious as this one don't happen very often.

Personally, I almost never update video drivers unless there's a reason to do so. While major problems are rare, minor problems happen from time to time and if the driver's working I usually prefer to leave it alone. With other Windows or Linux updates, I try to keep things up to date, in part because many of the updates are security updates. Video drivers don't don't often affect security.
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Found 2 primes in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de Primes321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,042,688)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,617,541)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,303,526)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,202,873)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,100,156)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,513,728)SoB LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,851,996)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,199,189)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,100,018)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,405,027)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,491,055)321 Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,003,334)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (268,250)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,000,502)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (306,761,000)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,000,133)TRP Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,000,970)AP 26/27 Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (200,128,500)GFN Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (138,157,354)PSA Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (200,000,001)
Message 95731 - Posted: 11 Jun 2016 | 14:21:13 UTC

Exactly, IIABDFI.

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Message 95743 - Posted: 12 Jun 2016 | 21:21:09 UTC

Hello,

Can we know more about this ?

I'm running 364.19 on Archlinux and wondering if affected.
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Message 95744 - Posted: 12 Jun 2016 | 22:15:24 UTC - in response to Message 95743.
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Hello,

Can we know more about this ?

I'm running 364.19 on Archlinux and wondering if affected.


Bottom line is there's a bug in that driver that sometimes produces erroneous results. See this thread for details: http://www.primegrid.com/forum_thread.php?id=6769

It's bad enough so that our validator will not trust results from computers running the affected drivers; if both matching results are from the buggy drivers the validator will force a third task to be sent out even if the first two results match.

At some point we may declare those drivers as "programma non grata" and reject them completely and force people to upgrade/downgrade if they want to run GPU tasks at PrimeGrid, but we're not doing that at this time.

EDIT: I didn't answer if you're affected, sorry. Yes, your driver is buggy. Whether or not you're getting errors depends on several different factors, not all of which are understood by anyone outside of Nvidia's development team. You should definitely upgrade.
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Message 95745 - Posted: 12 Jun 2016 | 22:34:18 UTC - in response to Message 95744.

Ok thanks for the info :)
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Message 95746 - Posted: 12 Jun 2016 | 22:40:38 UTC - in response to Message 95743.
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Hello,

Can we know more about this ?

I'm running 364.19 on Archlinux and wondering if affected.

Quick summary of what we know:
1- Only seems to affect Maxwell cards (including first gen cards such as the 750ti)
2- Not everything is affected. Out of the various genefer transforms, only OCL4-High is affected; even then, this only happens if B is "high enough" for a given N, which means that it only currently concearns GFN17-Mega. Manual GFN sieve is also affected, again if the test range is high enough (which it is right now). I don't think anyone tested PPS Sieve, PPR12M Seive or the PPRNet apps, so I can't comment on that.
3- I think all of the testing was done under Windows, so no clue if Linux is affected as well.
4- There was also a TDR problem that occured on POEM@Home apps with these drivers. It's unrelated to our issues, and in fact was even fixed one driver release earlier than ours (365.19, we had to wait until 368.22 to have safe PrimeGrid drivers again). Still, I figure I'd mention it.

So, does it affect you or not? I can't really say that. But you can test it yourself. Download the Geneferocl app and test the candidate 43322502^8192+1

You should get RES=b6013fa4fd5f6d78 if you are unaffected; it should MaxErr otherwise. Remember to run the tests at stock speeds, however, as overclocking could cause MaxErr regardless of a bad driver or not.

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Message 95754 - Posted: 13 Jun 2016 | 2:36:56 UTC
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Regardless of the information in the above message, the validator will not trust any result from a 364.xx-367.xx driver unless it's paired with a result that did not come from one of those drivers. So even if you personally are not affected because you're not running a Maxwell card, if your wingman is also using one of the bad versions a 3rd result will be forced. And a 4th, 5th, etc. until we have a quorum where at least one result was either done on an ATI card, CPU or a good nVidia driver version. The bottom line is that everyone should upgrade ASAP.

I repeat, the validator does not know whether you're using a Maxwell card. That was a deliberate design choice on our part and will not change. Please upgrade your driver.

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Message 95773 - Posted: 13 Jun 2016 | 21:57:14 UTC - in response to Message 95754.

Damn even 367 ? I have an upgrade of the nvidia drivers but it's 367.27 :/ I guess I'll have to wait a little :)
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Message 95774 - Posted: 13 Jun 2016 | 22:44:38 UTC - in response to Message 95746.

Quick summary of what we know:
1- Only seems to affect Maxwell cards (including first gen cards such as the 750ti)
2- Not everything is affected. Out of the various genefer transforms, only OCL4-High is affected; even then, this only happens if B is "high enough" for a given N, which means that it only currently concearns GFN17-Mega. Manual GFN sieve is also affected, again if the test range is high enough (which it is right now). I don't think anyone tested PPS Sieve, PPR12M Seive or the PPRNet apps, so I can't comment on that.
3- I think all of the testing was done under Windows, so no clue if Linux is affected as well.


All of the above is an accurate description of what we've observed. However, since we never got a description from Nvidia of what the bug actually was, which GPUs it affected, or what platforms it affected. officially we can't assume that our anecdotal observations are necessarily correct. Therefore, officially, ALL results with the bad drivers, regardless of the type of task, GPU, platform, etc., are considered suspect. Just because we've never seen a failure in a particular situation doesn't mean it's impossible. Without knowing the details of the bug, we can't be certain that "it can't happen" in a particular scenario.
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Message 95781 - Posted: 14 Jun 2016 | 2:15:34 UTC

From our point of view, there's also nothing wrong with downgrading the driver to a version before 364.xx. For example, I don't do any gaming and I'm still using driver version 355.82. I see no reason to change that.

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Message 95782 - Posted: 14 Jun 2016 | 2:38:26 UTC - in response to Message 95781.

From our point of view, there's also nothing wrong with downgrading the driver to a version before 364.xx. For example, I don't do any gaming and I'm still using driver version 355.82. I see no reason to change that.

The reason should be obvious: increase the chances of finding a hidden bug with by having more people running new drivers.:)

Isn't that how we discovered the issue in the first place?

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Message 95783 - Posted: 14 Jun 2016 | 3:59:39 UTC - in response to Message 95782.
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Just want to point out that ... NVIDIA is still supporting new drivers like 368.xx, on XP, on some GPUs. You can confirm this by finding 368.xx drivers on NVIDIA's Advanced driver search, for a GPU like a GTX 780. Essentially, NVIDIA has chosen to drop Vista support for drivers going forward, but still keep minimal XP support. I still recommend Windows 10.

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Message 95831 - Posted: 16 Jun 2016 | 23:13:34 UTC

I got the message about NVIDIA. Does that mean that an NVIDIA thing (graphics-related?) acts in my PC? How do I know wether this is the case? PrimeGrid-organizers cannot expect everyone letting PrimeGrid act on their PC is a hardware specialist!

I have a PC with Windows 7 prof. 64-bit.If I must, how do I upgrade?

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Message 95833 - Posted: 16 Jun 2016 | 23:20:18 UTC - in response to Message 95831.

I got the message about NVIDIA. Does that mean that an NVIDIA thing (graphics-related?) acts in my PC? How do I know wether this is the case? PrimeGrid-organizers cannot expect everyone letting PrimeGrid act on their PC is a hardware specialist!

I have a PC with Windows 7 prof. 64-bit.If I must, how do I upgrade?

Your PC doesn't have an NVIDIA graphics card, so you don't need to worry about this driver thing. You can just safely ignore this message, it doesn't concearn you.

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Message 95834 - Posted: 16 Jun 2016 | 23:21:11 UTC - in response to Message 95831.

I got the message about NVIDIA. Does that mean that an NVIDIA thing (graphics-related?) acts in my PC? How do I know wether this is the case? PrimeGrid-organizers cannot expect everyone letting PrimeGrid act on their PC is a hardware specialist!

Please calm down ;)

Your computer does not have an NVIDIA graphics processor, only the OEM Intel onboard graphics processor. This driver bug does not affect your computer.

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Message 96511 - Posted: 1 Jul 2016 | 20:24:05 UTC - in response to Message 95834.

I got the message about NVIDIA. Does that mean that an NVIDIA thing (graphics-related?) acts in my PC? How do I know wether this is the case? PrimeGrid-organizers cannot expect everyone letting PrimeGrid act on their PC is a hardware specialist!


Please calm down ;)

Your computer does not have an NVIDIA graphics processor, only the OEM Intel onboard graphics processor. This driver bug does not affect your computer.


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Message 96673 - Posted: 6 Jul 2016 | 20:31:39 UTC - in response to Message 96511.
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I just upgraded my driver from 353.30 to the latest version (368.69?) and I get the error message "The 'Nvidia GeForce GTX 660M' device is not removable and cannot be ejected or unplugged." with the laptop totally freezing up.

Has anyone else come across this problem?

Edit: I booted-up into Safe Mode using the F8 key and I am presently downloading driver version 353.30 for a reinstall. I will update when I have further news.

Edit 2: The reinstallation of the previous driver worked like a charm. Reminder to self: If it ain't broke, don't fix it!!!

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Message 96677 - Posted: 7 Jul 2016 | 1:36:56 UTC

Does anyone know how much calculation or computer time is being wasted because by users who haven't updated their drivers?
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Message 96678 - Posted: 7 Jul 2016 | 1:38:02 UTC - in response to Message 96677.

Hopefully none, at least for this project. To my knowledge, this project's servers won't give you NVIDIA tasks if it detects your driver would produce erroneous results.

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Message 96679 - Posted: 7 Jul 2016 | 1:47:16 UTC - in response to Message 96678.

Getting rid of the cuda app probably saves the most computing time.

Someone was running a gfn22 unit on cuda on a 980ti. 342K seconds, when it should have been about 55-60% (or less) of that.

http://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=481711928

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Message 96682 - Posted: 7 Jul 2016 | 14:24:20 UTC - in response to Message 96678.

Hopefully none, at least for this project. To my knowledge, this project's servers won't give you NVIDIA tasks if it detects your driver would produce erroneous results.


Not true. We send the tasks out. When they come back, we require at least one task to NOT be from a suspect video driver.
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Message 96683 - Posted: 7 Jul 2016 | 14:27:36 UTC - in response to Message 96679.

Getting rid of the cuda app probably saves the most computing time.

Someone was running a gfn22 unit on cuda on a 980ti. 342K seconds, when it should have been about 55-60% (or less) of that.

http://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=481711928


Yeah, turning off CUDA theoretically saves the most computer time. Switching from CUDA to OpenCL saves time because the OpenCL app is faster, and doubly saves time because ALL CUDA tasks were considered to be running the suspect driver because the CUDA app didn't report which driver it was running, so we assume the worst.

I say theoretically because, after all the time I've been telling people to stop using the CUDA app, I suspect that anyone who was still running it when I turned it off is probably now running nothing at all.
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Found 5 primes in the 2021 Tour de PrimesFound 5 mega primes in the 2021 Tour de PrimesThe "Shut up already!" badge:  This loud mouth has mansplained on the forums over 10 thousand times!  Sheesh!!!Discovered the World's First GFN-19 prime!!!Discovered 6 mega primesFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de Primes321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,822,730)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,624,591)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,021,269)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,145,754)PPS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (16,008,485)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,197,957)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (34,291,181)SR5 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,007,110)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,252,256)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,084,329)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,911,985)321 Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,061,196)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,170,256)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,059,304)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (22,885,121)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,118,303)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (76,733,355)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,445,029)
Message 96684 - Posted: 7 Jul 2016 | 14:33:42 UTC - in response to Message 96677.

Does anyone know how much calculation or computer time is being wasted because by users who haven't updated their drivers?


I don't, and if I don't it's likely nobody does. Analyzing the DB to get that sort of information would be very tricky using just SQL. It probably requires writing a program to analyze the database, and it's certainly not worth the effort.
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