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nilium
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Discovered 3 mega primesPPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (25,606,519)SR5 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (842,865)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,276,734)PPS Sieve Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,024,784)AP 26/27 Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,728,837)GFN Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (9,131,068)
Message 85404 - Posted: 2 May 2015 | 6:45:58 UTC

Hi all,

a question.

Why some WU have not double control
and are directly validated?

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Discovered 1 mega primeEliminated 1 conjecture "k"Discovered 1 twin prime321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,014,405)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,734,854)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,421,149)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,576,209)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (9,825,243)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (9,352,326)SoB LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,986,628)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,248,659)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,878,856)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,416,106)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,400,237)321 Sieve Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,000,576)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,000,977)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,843,367)PPS Sieve Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (78,673,438)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,473,750)TRP Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,243,608)AP 26/27 Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,734,912)GFN Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (202,025,746)PSA Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,042,125)
Message 85409 - Posted: 2 May 2015 | 12:36:30 UTC
Last modified: 2 May 2015 | 12:37:41 UTC

This has been explained many times. It is called adaptive replication. On some of the smaller items (I believe they are PPSE, PPS, SGS and TPR Sieve) have the ability to be validated on a known good host, if the workunit is not a Prime, or in the case of TPR Sieve (which doesn't specifically look for primes) has been consistently sending good work. Not all units are this way, only a small portion of them are. The smaller numbers fall off the top 5000 pretty fast and it's a way to try to make sure none of them go below that threshold. If a unit is declared a prime, it is always double checked in some form or another (and many times tripled checked via backend checking).

So, if you machine does a lot of clean work and it is deemed stable, you may see a few of these units come across your plate. The project does not give out the backend information on what this process entails to deter cheating. Also if a residue comes back that seems wrong, it will get double checked anyway.

So if you are getting these, be thankful that you do knowing that PG systems think your system is worthy of doing this work.

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321 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (587,721)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (434,353)ESP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (110,607)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (133,139)PPS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (674,283)PSP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (951,723)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (25,111,135)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (221,631)SGS LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (58,225)TRP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (542,327)Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (783,073)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (120,713)PPS Sieve Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (636,552)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (102,989)TRP Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (139,663)AP 26/27 Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (149,591)GFN Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,170,976)
Message 85416 - Posted: 2 May 2015 | 16:26:16 UTC

Also, from observation I've got to conclusion that The Adaptive Replication Badge is granted for a couple of days and then (for a shorter period) is removed. I think that's why nobody can get The AR Badge with long running sub-projects -- if WU runs longer than above mentioned verification period then a host won't ever be concluded responcible.

Also, is it per host or per user?

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Discovered 1 mega primeEliminated 1 conjecture "k"Discovered 1 twin prime321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,014,405)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,734,854)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,421,149)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,576,209)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (9,825,243)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (9,352,326)SoB LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,986,628)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,248,659)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,878,856)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,416,106)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,400,237)321 Sieve Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,000,576)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,000,977)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,843,367)PPS Sieve Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (78,673,438)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,473,750)TRP Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,243,608)AP 26/27 Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,734,912)GFN Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (202,025,746)PSA Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,042,125)
Message 85425 - Posted: 2 May 2015 | 18:13:57 UTC

I believe per host, but there may be some algorithms that may also partially judge the user, for example if a user is running a rogue host that spews nothing but garbage it may be factored into the mix and may not allow the other hosts to participate. I personally have not had any of these issues and I know pretty well immediately if a machine has gone bad.

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Discovered 3 mega primesPPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (25,606,519)SR5 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (842,865)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,276,734)PPS Sieve Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,024,784)AP 26/27 Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,728,837)GFN Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (9,131,068)
Message 85435 - Posted: 3 May 2015 | 9:05:05 UTC - in response to Message 85425.



Thanks very much.

Repetita iuvan


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Discovered 1 mega primeDiscovered 1 Fermat divisor321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,418,357)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,256,909)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,449,649)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,689,642)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,082,092)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,983,690)SoB LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,542,658)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,011,433)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,024,088)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,149,540)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,222,602)321 Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,195,418)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (201,767)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,158,539)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (282,327,552)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,293,182)TRP Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,183,808)AP 26/27 Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (50,086,100)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (65,508,091)PSA Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (200,004,037)
Message 85436 - Posted: 3 May 2015 | 9:28:11 UTC - in response to Message 85435.


Thanks very much.

Repetita iuvan

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