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Message 70722 - Posted: 7 Nov 2013 | 20:40:14 UTC

I know that there's a prize for a 100-million digit prime. But we could create our own pool like in a draw/lottery. Say we donate whatever money everybody can and then who ever finds the largest prime gets all the money.

It could be a lottery only among those who donated to the pool or for anyone. The latter could create a buzz and bring more crunchers here.

Though I don't crunch GFN WR myself, I would gladly donate 20-30 euros just for fun.

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Message 70728 - Posted: 7 Nov 2013 | 23:25:58 UTC
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Allthough I can see how this might appeal to people and even draw more people to the GFN-WR project, there's going to be a shed load of legal red tape and impossibilities to make this available to all our participants due to them living in different countries. If you check the top countries ranking you'll see there's 189 countries* who have participated!! In order to makes this work in all those countries we'd need people with intimate knowledge of the law in each and every of those countries.

And that's ignoring the fact that PrimeGrid is, to the best of my knowledge, not a legal entity and thus "PrimeGrid" can't do jack. Also ignoring the fact that for all we know there might not be a prime within the limit of our current program.

Mike, Lennart or Rytis can give the final word but I don't see this happening.

(The wording migt me a bit coarse, but I do appreciate your input :))
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Message 70731 - Posted: 8 Nov 2013 | 6:18:06 UTC - in response to Message 70728.

the top countries ranking you'll see there's 189 countries*


It is worse than 186 countries. In some like Australia each STATE has different gaming laws, You would need to be a registered charity or buy a gaming operators licence here in Queensland for example, EVERY other state has different rules, as I believe do each of the USA states. The winner importing the money could have trouble, or in some countries fifty or so lashes of a whip.
I like the idea but cold hard cash in not a universal currency.
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Message 70732 - Posted: 8 Nov 2013 | 7:31:54 UTC

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The "Shut up already!" badge:  This loud mouth has mansplained on the forums over 10 thousand times!  Sheesh!!!Discovered the World's First GFN-19 prime!!!Discovered the World's First Wall-Sun-Sun prime!!!Discovered 1 mega primeDiscovered 2 Wieferich primesDiscovered 2 Wall-Sun-Sun primesFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de Primes321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,822,730)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,005,249)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,009,577)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,145,754)PPS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (15,527,037)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,197,957)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (34,291,181)SR5 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,007,110)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,276,330)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,084,329)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,195,123)321 Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,061,196)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,170,256)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,059,304)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (22,885,121)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,118,303)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (74,703,799)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,445,029)
Message 70735 - Posted: 8 Nov 2013 | 13:27:03 UTC

I'm concerned that this idea could actually backfire, and cause less participation rather than more.

If I remember correctly, GIMPS won a prize ($100K???) for the first million digit prime (or maybe 10 million digit prime), and part of that prize money went to the person who found the prime and the rest was held in reserve to award to future finders of even larger Mersenne primes. Each person who finds a new world record Mersenne prime at GIMPS therefore gets a share of that original prize. For argument's sake, let's say that smaller prize is $5000.

So while we might be offering a small "lunch-money" prize, it's entirely conceivable that the secondary prize money being handed out by GIMPS might be larger than what we're offering. If people are attracted to the prize money, the prize offering here could end up sending more people to GIMPS than PrimeGrid.

I'm also not entirely comfortable with the idea of having money involved in distributed science projects. It seems like the potential exists for funded projects, led by universities or corporations, regularly handing out small monetary prizes for participation. That would be an incentive volunteer projects such as PrimeGrid could never match. That could potentially be a disaster for projects like us.

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Message 70737 - Posted: 8 Nov 2013 | 13:53:49 UTC - in response to Message 70735.

10$ for 10% more credits per day for a week!

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Message 70755 - Posted: 9 Nov 2013 | 12:38:40 UTC

No no no & more no.Money does not rile the world (even if it does o.O).

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Message 70781 - Posted: 10 Nov 2013 | 0:59:12 UTC

How about credit bonuses for primes found with the bonus percentage based on the size of the prime, somewhat similar to the bonuses given to crunching of the different size sub projects. Then have a HUGE bonus (say the size of the prime as the bonus) for each time a new record size prime is found with the double checker receiving half the bonus of the initial finder. Just a thought.


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