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Profile rebel9
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ID: 13678
Credit: 52,771,639
RAC: 1,092
321 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (519,144)Cullen LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (572,370)ESP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (536,818)PPS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (502,515)PSP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (565,100)SoB LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (614,623)SR5 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (507,344)SGS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (505,703)TRP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (534,581)Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (582,710)321 Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (202,473)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,889,998)PPS Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (13,964,561)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (523,310)TRP Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (505,919)AP 26/27 Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,018,831)GFN Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (15,948,076)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,297,176)
Message 57714 - Posted: 21 Sep 2012 | 9:50:39 UTC


Hi Guys,

I started crunching PSA work again a bit over a month ago after a lengthy break but haven't seen any change in my stats. Just checking whether that's correct or if I have something set incorrectly in my config.

Thanks.

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Found 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de Primes321 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,310,491)Cullen LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,086,094)ESP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,875,010)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,216,209)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,212,863)PSP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,323,642)SoB LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,603,584)SR5 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,891,772)SGS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,163,706)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,832,495)Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,506,073)321 Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,432,077)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,967,439)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,137,451)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (269,484,171)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (627,444)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,956,401)AP 26/27 Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (15,856,233)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (66,278,906)PSA Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (87,901,787)
Message 57715 - Posted: 21 Sep 2012 | 10:52:03 UTC - in response to Message 57714.
Last modified: 21 Sep 2012 | 10:52:18 UTC

your stats look fine
http://u-g-f.de/PRPNet/user_search?uid=Gary
congrats to the prime found today (and the others previous)
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Credit: 52,771,639
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321 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (519,144)Cullen LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (572,370)ESP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (536,818)PPS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (502,515)PSP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (565,100)SoB LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (614,623)SR5 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (507,344)SGS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (505,703)TRP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (534,581)Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (582,710)321 Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (202,473)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,889,998)PPS Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (13,964,561)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (523,310)TRP Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (505,919)AP 26/27 Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,018,831)GFN Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (15,948,076)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,297,176)
Message 57731 - Posted: 22 Sep 2012 | 10:03:15 UTC - in response to Message 57715.
Last modified: 22 Sep 2012 | 10:03:44 UTC

Hi,

Thanks but getting back to the point. My PSA stats haven't changed since around the end of April. I know from experience that there are several of us using the same user name, so they may not even be all mine, although the machine name is correct, but again may not be unique. None of this explains why my PSA credit has been at 1,194,260.00 since I re-started and not changed. So, my original question again - has there just not been an update or have I made an error in my config., perhaps?

Thanks again.

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Discovered 1 mega prime321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,893,273)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,440,687)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,738,876)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,292,626)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (9,648,951)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,653,927)SoB LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,558,341)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,748,705)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,335,713)TRP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,602,818)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,282,622)321 Sieve Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (740,566)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (59,788,598)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,143,068)PPS Sieve Double Gold: Earned 500,000,000 credits (524,673,938)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,130,821)TRP Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,074,710)AP 26/27 Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (43,842,888)GFN Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (224,648,943)PSA Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (62,378,755)
Message 57734 - Posted: 22 Sep 2012 | 17:35:19 UTC - in response to Message 57731.

Maybe 2 years ago, when I first ran PSA work, I made the mistake of putting a space in my username in the prpclient.ini file, rather than replacing with an underscore. So, I had some small amount of work (I think on the 27 project, mostly, maybe 200K PRPnet points) show up as being credited to "Gary", and so did not transfer to my PG account. I don't know if this is contributing to this issue or not, but I thought I should mention it.

I should add that for a long time now my PSA credit for "Gary_Craig" has been rolling over to my PG "Gary Craig" account with no problems. Thanks admins! And no, I'm not worried about the missing work... it wasn't much.

--Gary

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Eliminated 3 conjecture "k"s321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (186,594)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (106,665)ESP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (502,416)PPS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (504,111)PSP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (513,785)SoB LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (564,944)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,790,118)SGS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (501,099)TPS LLR (retired) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (46,235)TRP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (708,706)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (133,626)321 Sieve Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (21,527)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (14,729,132)PPS Sieve Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (132,786,707)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (510,317)TRP Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (620,991)AP 26/27 Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (418,876)GFN Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,795,613)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (18,329,123)
Message 57736 - Posted: 22 Sep 2012 | 17:46:25 UTC - in response to Message 57734.

Maybe 2 years ago, when I first ran PSA work, I made the mistake of putting a space in my username in the prpclient.ini file, rather than replacing with an underscore. So, I had some small amount of work (I think on the 27 project, mostly, maybe 200K PRPnet points) show up as being credited to "Gary", and so did not transfer to my PG account. I don't know if this is contributing to this issue or not, but I thought I should mention it.

I should add that for a long time now my PSA credit for "Gary_Craig" has been rolling over to my PG "Gary Craig" account with no problems. Thanks admins! And no, I'm not worried about the missing work... it wasn't much.

--Gary


You can ask Sysadm@Nbg to combine 2 names to one. The rest of credits should be add to your account here.

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Found 5 primes in the 2021 Tour de PrimesFound 5 mega primes in the 2021 Tour de PrimesThe "Shut up already!" badge:  This loud mouth has mansplained on the forums over 10 thousand times!  Sheesh!!!Discovered the World's First GFN-19 prime!!!Discovered 6 mega primesFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de Primes321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,822,730)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,624,591)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,021,269)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,145,754)PPS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (16,008,485)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,197,957)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (34,291,181)SR5 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,007,110)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,252,256)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,084,329)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,911,985)321 Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,061,196)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,170,256)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,059,304)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (22,885,121)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,118,303)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (76,733,355)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,445,029)
Message 57740 - Posted: 22 Sep 2012 | 21:01:39 UTC

Authoritative Answer:

If more than one person is using the same username with PRPNET, it's pretty much guaranteed that someone is going to lose credit.

It doesn't matter if your user ID on PRPNET matches your BOINC username, however.

But if you notice that someone else is using the same username on PRPNET as you are, the best thing to do is to switch your username on PRPNET to something someone else has never used. You can contact me to ensure it's unique (or I'll suggest one for you, if you wish.)

Here's how the credit process works, so you can understand what might cause problems:

1) NGB picks up the stats from PRPNET, and has a webpage that lists every user and how many points and tasks they've done in every project.

2) PrimeGrid (which means me, in this case) keeps a spreadsheet that lists PRPNET usernames and their corresponding BOINC PrimeGrid user ID numbers. Note that there's no method for determining who is who if more than one person uses the same ID on PRPNET. Whomever used that ID first gets all the credit for everyone who uses that ID.

3) When a new user ID shows up on that webpage, I compare the email address used in the PRPNET configuration to the email address used in the BOINC registration to figure out the proper BOINC ID. I then enter that information into the spreadsheet.

If you want to ensure that the user ID you're using on PRPNET is actually sending credit to your account, just drop me a PM with the relevant information (usernames and the account number of the BOINC account here.)

--Mike
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Message 57751 - Posted: 23 Sep 2012 | 8:58:22 UTC - in response to Message 57736.

Maybe 2 years ago, when I first ran PSA work, I made the mistake of putting a space in my username in the prpclient.ini file, rather than replacing with an underscore. So, I had some small amount of work (I think on the 27 project, mostly, maybe 200K PRPnet points) show up as being credited to "Gary", and so did not transfer to my PG account. I don't know if this is contributing to this issue or not, but I thought I should mention it.

I should add that for a long time now my PSA credit for "Gary_Craig" has been rolling over to my PG "Gary Craig" account with no problems. Thanks admins! And no, I'm not worried about the missing work... it wasn't much.

--Gary


You can ask Sysadm@Nbg to combine 2 names to one. The rest of credits should be add to your account here.


Its not only me; it is a quite difficult interaction between admin and me!
the steps are as follows:
1) identify the two unique across all PSA subprojects (!) usernames which had to be merged
2) modify server-side statistics as far as the subprojects are affected (in other case my database changes would be overwritten on next update)
3) modify my statistic database according to the server-side changes
4) regenerate the not dynamic webpages

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Found 5 primes in the 2021 Tour de PrimesFound 5 mega primes in the 2021 Tour de PrimesThe "Shut up already!" badge:  This loud mouth has mansplained on the forums over 10 thousand times!  Sheesh!!!Discovered the World's First GFN-19 prime!!!Discovered 6 mega primesFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de Primes321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,822,730)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,624,591)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,021,269)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,145,754)PPS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (16,008,485)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,197,957)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (34,291,181)SR5 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,007,110)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,252,256)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,084,329)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,911,985)321 Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,061,196)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,170,256)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,059,304)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (22,885,121)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,118,303)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (76,733,355)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,445,029)
Message 57756 - Posted: 23 Sep 2012 | 11:57:00 UTC - in response to Message 57734.

I should add that for a long time now my PSA credit for "Gary_Craig" has been rolling over to my PG "Gary Craig" account with no problems. Thanks admins! And no, I'm not worried about the missing work... it wasn't much.

--Gary


This scenario isn't as problematic as you might think.

I've got a spreadsheet that has PRPNET usernames in one column, and BOINC ID numbers in another column. As long as all the PRPNET ID names you may use are associated with the correct BOINC account number, all the credit goes to the right place.

The only problem with switching IDs is that it's extra work for me: I have to manually look in the appropriate database tables to match up the email addresses. But that only happens once per name.

The REAL problem is when you use the same name but with different capitalization, such as sm5ymt and SM5YMT. For some reason, the stats website seems to randomly reverse the numbers between them, so each time I assign the credit, there's a 50% chance that the numbers are reversed in those two.

Most people recognize that as Lennart's ID, and he's got a whole lot of credit. Most of it's on "SM5YMT", but there's a little bit on "sm5ymt". When they get reversed, suddenly one ID seems to have accumulated hundreds of millions of credits in one week, and the other one impossibly accumulates NEGATIVE hundreds of millions in credit.

(I used Lennart as an example here, but this is not a criticism of Lennart, nor of anyone else who has similar user names. The procedures for granting PSA credit have evolved over the years, and those usernames undoubtedly pre-date the procedures currently in place to grant credit. There's also nothing Lennart (or other users) can possibly do to correct the problem. And it's not really that big of a problem as long as the person granting the credit knows to look out for this.)

Fortunately, there's only a few accounts like that, so I have a manual procedure in place to detect and correct it. Other than this scenario where you have different capitalizations, having multiple user IDs on PRPNET isn't really a problem.

Sysadm@Nbg: If you decide you want to correct this (it's not necessary unless we get a lot more accounts like this), the fix would be to ensure that each username gets the correct credit. Please do not combine them together; that would cause more problems than it would solve. Thanks! (That's making an assumption that the problem is in how you're correlating the stats; it's possible that the problem is on PrimeGrid's end in how the raw stats are produced.)
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