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Found 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de Primes321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (154,337)Cullen LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (65,587)ESP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (66,542)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (72,412)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,127,864)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (104,595)SoB LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (126,157)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (161,281)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (436,634)TRP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (639,881)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (115,733)321 Sieve Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (10,368)PPS Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,119,298)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (10,227)TRP Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (21,181)AP 26/27 Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (12,129)GFN Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,104,346)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,617,327)
Message 28749 - Posted: 4 Dec 2010 | 0:21:39 UTC

How does Boinc/PG assign WU to a user when several (in my case 2) projects are selected?
It can't be at random, because I get about 4 times more SGS LLR WUs than PPS LLR WUs.
It also can't be about equality of running time or credits because SGS LLR WUs take of course longer than PPS LLR WUs.
...so how are these WUs assigned?
Pardon if the question seems stupid, I just don't know the answer and haven't found it in the forum.
Thx!

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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (104,475)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (291,372)ESP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (18,156)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (15,259)PPS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (113,978)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (116,517)SoB LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (282,655)SR5 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (14,071)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (100,082)TPS LLR (retired) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (111,607)TRP LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,681,766)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (101,463)321 Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (201,501)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (214,653)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (14,200)PPS Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (491,193)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (200,232)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,453,872)AP 26/27 Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (473,058)GFN Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (197,387)PSA Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (97,541)
Message 28760 - Posted: 4 Dec 2010 | 11:28:59 UTC

The work distribution between subprojects is controlled from the server side. We send more work for the projects that need more "push". At the moment SGS gets 1.5 times more work than PPS. Note that is for the count of tasks and not the runtime.
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Discovered 4 mega primesEliminated 1 conjecture "k"Found 3 primes in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 mega prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 5 primes in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 6 primes in the 2020 Tour de Primes321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,774,878)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,903,451)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,454,573)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,122,074)PPS LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (83,377,417)PSP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (15,223,714)SoB LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (17,319,914)SR5 LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (23,996,561)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,342,780)TPS LLR (retired) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (34,130)TRP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (19,866,589)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,171,820)321 Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,236,219)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,383,853)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,626,419)PPS Sieve Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (76,969,144)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,293,882)TRP Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,012,757)AP 26/27 Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (21,918,894)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (76,466,089)PSA Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,939,755)
Message 28761 - Posted: 4 Dec 2010 | 11:40:14 UTC - in response to Message 28760.

That's interesting... in the past I've generally found PPS getting sent far more often than SGS. I have those two turned off now, it feels like I'm getting far more TRP units than others. Woodall being a significant second and hardly any Cullen/PSP.

Back on PPS, out of curiosity could I ask why the change in relative priority to SGS? I assume there's enough top5000 headroom. Anything to do with the recent sieve speed perhaps altering the balance of value between sieve/LLR?

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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (104,475)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (291,372)ESP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (18,156)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (15,259)PPS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (113,978)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (116,517)SoB LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (282,655)SR5 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (14,071)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (100,082)TPS LLR (retired) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (111,607)TRP LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,681,766)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (101,463)321 Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (201,501)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (214,653)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (14,200)PPS Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (491,193)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (200,232)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,453,872)AP 26/27 Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (473,058)GFN Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (197,387)PSA Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (97,541)
Message 28762 - Posted: 4 Dec 2010 | 11:42:26 UTC

We now have a very fast sieve application for PPS, so it makes sense to do more sieving than LLRing at the moment.
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Discovered 4 mega primesEliminated 1 conjecture "k"Found 3 primes in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 mega prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 5 primes in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 6 primes in the 2020 Tour de Primes321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,774,878)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,903,451)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,454,573)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,122,074)PPS LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (83,377,417)PSP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (15,223,714)SoB LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (17,319,914)SR5 LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (23,996,561)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,342,780)TPS LLR (retired) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (34,130)TRP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (19,866,589)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,171,820)321 Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,236,219)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,383,853)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,626,419)PPS Sieve Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (76,969,144)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,293,882)TRP Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,012,757)AP 26/27 Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (21,918,894)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (76,466,089)PSA Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,939,755)
Message 28763 - Posted: 4 Dec 2010 | 11:49:18 UTC - in response to Message 28762.

Yay! I guessed right!

I think "very fast" is an understatement... you're going to need more badge colours soon!

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Found 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de Primes321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (154,337)Cullen LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (65,587)ESP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (66,542)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (72,412)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,127,864)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (104,595)SoB LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (126,157)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (161,281)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (436,634)TRP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (639,881)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (115,733)321 Sieve Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (10,368)PPS Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,119,298)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (10,227)TRP Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (21,181)AP 26/27 Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (12,129)GFN Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,104,346)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,617,327)
Message 28768 - Posted: 4 Dec 2010 | 15:59:14 UTC

Thx for helping a newby out with those quick answers!

Another question: Did somebody work out the probability of a PPS/SGS LLR WU being prime?
According to the stat pages(12/04/10) the "absolute" probabilities are:
PPS: 0.01675% = 5766/34424868 [*]
SGS: 0.01091% = 1078/9876555 [*]
[*prime WUs / total WUs]
But those aren't the "real" probabilities because the prob.'s decline when the testing numbers increase...

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